Thank you everyone for the information. Still looking for options. I would 
prefer canti brakes. And sage is my favorite, but open to other colors. 
Does anyone know much about the Waterford made Sam's? When did they stop 
making them there? Any difference in geometry, possible shorter chain 
stays? I currently have a 62cm Surly Cross Check. It feels a little small 
for me. I have a 95PBH. 

Cody



On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 10:22:58 AM UTC-4, Cody Bartz wrote:
>
> Hello all!
>
> I have followed the group for a while. In 2010, in college, I bought my 
> first "serious" dependable bike, a Surly Long Haul Trucker. A friend of 
> mine owned a Hunqapillar, and I was always envious. She introduced me to 
> Rivendell. Over the years I have bought a number of parts and accessories, 
> always wanting a Riv. I am tempted to buy new, but wanted to put some 
> feelers out to see if anyone was getting rid of a large Hillborne, ideally 
> in the Sage color. 
>
> : ) 
> Cody
>

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