I had a 52cm Clementine for several years (sold due to circumstances, not 
dissatisfaction with the bicycle) and I also helped a friend purchase a 
Cheviot from Harris Cyclery. I did not find either bike "stout." I'm not 
even sure I know what that means when used to describe how a bicycle rides.

I know it is fashionable to talk about flex and stiffness and planing and 
spriteliness, and I will say that a vintage 531 frame definitely gets in 
synch with my power output. But with a good bike with decent tires, I just 
like to ride. I was in Chicago for 10 days recently and was quite happy 
doing 30 miles on the 3-speed Divvy bike. Yeah, Cadillacs are heavy, but 
the ride is sweet. 

Both the Cheviot and the Clem L are fun, fun, bikes to ride. I think as 
some have pointed out, geometry, handlebars, tire width, and brakes will 
make some bit of difference. I will say that I find myself at least as 
enamored with the Clem L's appearance as the Chevs, and would have to give 
it the edge at this point. Not only is that lower low tube useful, that 
swoop dee doop give the bike a classic, laid back look. The welds are nice, 
it has some lugwork, the Art Carney decal, the paint is super--it's such an 
approachable, friendly bicycle! A convivial bicycle!

Yes, I am a Clem L fanboy! If anyone has a 52 frame and fork in grilver, I 
am almost at a point where I could consider reacquiring one--please let me 
know.


On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 6:32:48 PM UTC-4, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> There are too many outstanding Riv frame options for my middle-of-the-road 
> needs. Nice problem to face! 
>
> I've tested a Clem L and liked it. A lot. Silky smooth, 650b (in 52cm), 
> step-through for those unplanned traffic/trail dismounts, ample tire 
> clearance... 
>
> However, it felt overly stout for my 150 lbs and minimal cargo.
>
> Theoretically, the Cheviot seems like it would have a spritelier feel à la 
> Sam/Homer while keeping the long chainstays and low, stretched-out top 
> tube. For whoever has ridden some/all of these, is that about right?
>
> Not sure whether long-wheelbase models would fit in our buses' bike 
> racks...but that's another matter!
>

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