Sheesh! One more note: Since I took the photo of the Matthews, I've added a
10" long flap; certainly extending well below bb area.

I have to say that the bike, and I, were much dryer and cleaner than had I
no fenders, or only "moto" style fenders; this despite my complaining.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 3:43 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Nother note: riding thru the still dry powder, even the nominal tread on
> the BO front picked it up and flung it forward, where it blew back over me
> and the bike, and coated my shins and shoes. At least this stuff was clean
> snow.
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 3:40 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My part of the city got only 1 1/2 to 2" of snow earlier this week,
>> though cold temps have left much of it on the dirt roads, where it is not
>> quite slush -- wettish, slippery, but not yet melting. The stuff on the
>> small roads OTOH is slushy and messy. I did a brief 15 mile ride, outbound
>> on dirt but things were so messy that I took pavement back.
>>
>> I have not ridden in snow since 2015 or 6, and that was dryer snow with
>> no fenders; the last time I rode a bike with fenders in snow was 2006,
>> commute to work, and the snow packed up under the rear fender (Honjos) and
>> I had to stop several times to get rid of it. But at least that ride, too,
>> was in temps cold enough to keep the snow frozen
>>
>> So, some questions -- and I'm talking to you in particular, Deacon.
>>
>> First, I have ridden finders, short, long, flapped, not flapped, short
>> flaps, long flaps, narrow and wide, metal and plastic of all makes and
>> models, and I have *never* had a setup -- even with full Berthouds,
>> excessively wide for tires, full coverage, with massive, entirely excessive
>> flap -- that kept crap off my feet and chainstays when riding through water
>> or slush puddles
>>
>> Again, the snow today was wettish and, on pavement, slushy.
>>
>> 1. Keeping feet and shins and stays and bb area dry and clean: what do
>> you all do? Photos?
>>
>> I've found a new use for those LegShields (tm), as spats.
>>
>> 2. Buildup under fenders that rubs tire (Big Ones; the tread is nominal
>> only); snow did not jam or severely retard tire, but it did rub. Granted
>> there is only a cm or so between top of tire and bottom of fender, but I
>> wonder if some fenders and setups work better than others.
>>
>> 3. The slush built up on the cassette, causing the chain to skip -- had
>> at one point to put chain on 27 (big) that stands proud of next smaller.
>> Ideas? Patrick, I expect that fixed or ss free is best in such conditions
>> -- right?
>>
>> 4. Disc brakes: the pads either swell with wet or, more likely, when wet
>> pick up grit; no jamming, but certainly light rubbing.
>>
>> 5. SPD mech clogs: can't get feet in, and when you do, can't release.
>>
>> 6. How well do hub gears, the ordinary ones, don't mean Rohloff, do in
>> freezing temps and wet snow?
>>
>> Oh, and Big Ones are very scary in icy patches! Perhaps should build 2nd
>> wheelset with narrower, knobby tires -- knobs and much more fender
>> clearance.
>>
>> But good news, Molten Speed Wax kept chain quiet despite wet and dirt.
>> Washed bike with pails of warm water when I got home.
>>
>> In other news, daydreaming: ideal snow bike would be either something
>> like the Cleland, with fenders well above narrowish knobbies, but with drum
>> brakes and either hub gear or, again, ss -- or, really, this is one
>> situation where 2 rings and a single cog make sense -- rings less likely to
>> pack with slush.
>>
>> So, I may look for a beater mtb with room for 40s to 50s and 2 cm of air
>> under fenders, ss or fixed, with big fat toke lips (MKS extra deeps in
>> XXLL).
>>
>> [image: image.png]
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