I don't think there is anything inherently special about the mounting
of this bag that would prevent you from hacking it for use with a
decaleur and front rack.  I'm still waiting on the F-15 Nitto rack so
haven't tried the BarSack yet, but here are some things I would
consider before using this bag with a decaleur/front rack setup...

1. There is no horizontal leather strip along the top edge of the rear
of the bag where one would typically attach a decaleur.  Instead there
is a 2-snap leather tab and the magnets for securing the lid.
2. There is no slot or strap on the rear of the bag to attach to the
vertical part of a front Nitto or Berthoud rack.
3. There are no stiffeners in the bag.  The stiffener out of my Acorn
Rando bag fits in the Riv Barsack well, but would still need securing
at the top.

IMO, for $135 this bag is a screaming deal, given the high quality
materials, craftsmanship, and design.

Hope this helps,
-Jay
Denver, CO



On Mar 24, 7:29 am, Ken Freeman <kenfreeman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's been my thinking, too.  I guess the underlying question is whether
> Grant is prone to hyperbole, since I don't really follow Riv too closely.
> It's either an amazing statement, an incomplete statement (as you suggest),
> or sales fluffle (e.g, hyperbole).
>
> I'm in the middle of modifying my old Rhode Gear bag to take a decaleur so I
> can test my Woodrup's geometry.  I really don't see why any flat-bottomed
> bag that can accept a decaleur at the right height can't be front-racked.
>
> I'm just wondering if there's anything really special about this bag from a
> mounting point of view.  Looks to me like not.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 09:07 -0400, Ken Freeman wrote:
> > > Has anyone tried one yet?  Whadd'ya think?
>
> > > The on-line page says it must be used with the special Nitto F15 rack,
> > > which mounts to the handlebar.  Anybody see why?  Why can't it be used
> > > with a decaleur and a little front bag rack, like a TA, Berthoud, or
> > > Nitto?
>
> > I see no reason why it couln't be used that way, Ken.  I modified one of
> > the original Kirtland Tour Paks (which also were originally meant to be
> > supported by rods, only the Kirtland hooked over the stem rather than
> > bolted to it like the Nitto) so I could use it with a VO front rack and
> > a Berthoud Decaleur
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668210913/in/set-721576061...
> > and I've seen one of the old Riv Boxy Bags mounted that way also.
>
> > I think the intent is to say you can't just strap it onto the handlebars
> > and let it hang loose, like you can with some of the other Riv handlebar
> > bags.
>
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