In my experience
<https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2017/09/a-summer-fling-with-clem.html>,
the stock Clem build has a number of parts that I disagreed with: the
saddle was physically painful after less than a mile, I didn't like the
bars or shifters, and the tires were the worst I've ever used. So even if
you find a stock Clem for cheap (their resale value isn't great...),
consider that you may have to budget additional dough for parts later on.

Eric
Two Clems, none now, but I do miss my old Rockhopper

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 8:00 PM Friend <jtpc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I completely agree.  I think it needs to be a Clem.  The search is on.
> Thanks for the encouragement.
>
> On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:26:49 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>>
>> Not that another 'I agree' is needed, buuuuut...I agree.
>>
>> If your friend is willing to keep it fairly stock and is under 5'10"
>> (those 80s and 90s Specialized mountain bikes were not designed for taller
>> riders), an old Rockhopper might do the job nicely. They were really
>> wonderful bikes. But as Bill pointed out, replacing parts to turn it into a
>> Clem adds up real quick. And then you don't have a Clem. You have a
>> Rockhopper. Who's resale value (with all the fancy new parts) probably
>> still isn't too much more than what you paid for the stock bike.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 3:15:51 PM UTC-4, Adam Leibow wrote:
>>>
>>> if you are trying to do this super budget, find an old fully rigid
>>> complete stumpjumper or rockhopper from the early 90s, add the riv
>>> accoutrements, (swap the bars to boscos, add fenders, brooks saddle,
>>> basket+racks, schwalbe fat tires). done deal for easily under $600.
>>> alternatively, find a vintage MTB frameset with good clearances and build
>>> it up riv style. i have done so many builds like this.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 7:44:29 PM UTC-7, Friend wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My friend is in search of a new bike.  Everything she describes screams
>>>> CLEM to me.  Touring capable.  Big tire clearance.  Upright.  Potentially
>>>> Stepthrough.  Thing is, it's hard to find a complete Clem for less than
>>>> $1,300.  If you were trying to come close, with say, half that amount, what
>>>> would you search for?  Thanks for any suggestions
>>>>
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