Just to be clear about what I wrote, I don't consider the fact that some 
Riv models have overlapping designs to be a drawback. Not at all. But it 
can pose challenges in terms of marketing.

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> I think at this point the Rivendell design tenets have such a strong 
> gravitational pull that many of the models have more similarities than 
> differences. I see the Roadini more as a sportier, tigged version of the 
> AHH, with seat and head tube angles ever so slightly steeper, chainstays 
> ever so slightly shorter, and less max tire size. It's still very much in 
> what used to be called the "sports" geometry of late 70s early 890s UJBs.
>
> It's a highly practical, comfortable, speedy road bike. But with the DNA 
> from so many sources, maybe it came off too much like a mutt to the bicycle 
> buying public, not a distinct breed that could be easily labeled, like 
> country bike, or hillibike, or allroad or gravel. "Like a 70s sports tourer 
> but maybe with wider tires and tigged" is a tough category.
>
> It's still possible that the Gallop will break out of this gravitational 
> force. I was a little surprised when it was announced that the Gus Boots 
> would be offered in a version with lighter tubing. So maybe a new strain 
> has been introduced, or awakened.
>
> On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 12:57:52 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I think Roadini was too close to other Rivs with more tire clearance and 
>> stronger canti/v-brakes. If you were looking at one it was hard not to just 
>> go with a Clem or one of the fully lugged bikes instead. A true TIG-ed 
>> Roadeo (read: level toptube, thin tubing) clone would sell better, IMO. 
>
>

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