I have tried to refrain from commenting, but if others are going to insist on it, I will add my 2c worth.
"Liberal" and "conservative" are labels that have very little grounding in reality and mean little more than "I like this" or I dislike that." "Right" and "left" even more confused; what side of the Chambre des Deputies did Marx or does Trump or Pelosi sit on? That being the case, I accept that most ideologies are simply confused mish-mashes, and don't pay them very much attention; as for real values and doctrine, I try to keep my own mind clear and conform my own life to what the evidence points to. I don't do this well, but it's what I aim at. That being a long windup: I don't epect Grant's political or social views to be any more coherent than anyone else's, and I evaluate his qualities through his actions; certainly, making valuable objects well by paying skilled labor a decent wage is worth supporting; and in fact, it's as conservative an action, in any coherent meaning of conservative, as anything else. It's also truly liberal, in a coherent meaning of that term. And Amazon being "conservative" in any coherent sense of the term? That's got to be one of the most blatantly confused juxtapositions I've seen in a long time! I will keep my own views to myself except to say that I belong to the Orthodox church (which has a perfectly coherent doctrine and value system which it shares with Hinduism and the Navajo and so forth) and, though I despise all political candidates -- that is to say, I wish them well, but I despise their ideas -- I find Bernie Sanders the least incongenial; his policies would hasten the destruction of the country even faster than without them, but at least he believes in something reasonably coherent that is more than himself. And I think Jimmy Carter was as confused as anyone else, but he appears to be a more decent man than many other public figures I can think of. To get back to politics, gawd help us: H. L. Mencken said, "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he has to live under." On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:09 AM Brian Campbell <bdcampbel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I just wonder how someone who identifies themselves as conservative could > purchase something from Riv and not see a conflict? Grant and crew have > always put forth ideas and been involved in actions that are decidedly > liberal, IMHO. How do you square the business model of a company that is in > many ways the opposite of a prescribed belief system? Same for the liberal > folks who buy from Amazon? > > > > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 7:48:54 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> "But thanks for playing, everybody" was a statement to everybody who brought >> politics into it. That's what "everybody" means. I also said in a following >> comment just forget it and I will probably delete the original post, and I >> felt like the conversation had already drifted past this little kerfuffle. I >> don't this it as necessary to go back and reference every comment and >> "progressivism" and all that crap. >> >> The reality is I was excited about the TV lady being a Riv Rider and posted >> here what Will posted on the email. In retrospect it was a bad idea. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/533495a8-87dc-411e-a764-8290b141af64%40googlegroups.com. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgtLNwBGJjz8_g9jmNu%2Bc8%2BA%2BT9qyOE2_pj4uJTvUjisGQ%40mail.gmail.com.
