I follow R&E in Seattle almost as close as I follow RBW and tend to agree with their philosophy that there is no reason for a bike to have toe overlap. They tend to design around wheel sizes that eliminate toe overlap and they also go the "more fork rake/less head angle" route to eliminate toe overlap. They developed their own aluminum fork with 55mm of rake (vs the common 45mm fork) but they also build custom forks, as needed.
I think it's cool that Grant redesigned my size Atlantis with 700c wheels and a long top tube with more fork rake and less head angle. I bet that has tons of toe clearance, even with the fattest tires that will fit. I'm fortunate that I ride flat bars exclusively and my proportions require a bike with a longer top tube so I can run huge tires on my Hunqapillar (much more conservative in front-end dimensions than the new Atlantis) with no toe overlap. My grail bike is pretty much the old 26" 56cm Atlantis but I know from experience that a 57cm ETT just won't work for me. On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 11:55:41 AM UTC-6, Jason Fuller wrote: > > Fair enough Patrick, I have had bikes with varying amounts and I should > have been clearer that I think some toe overlap is OK for me (ie my 51 Sam > has some when I run fenders) and I've also never had an accident due to it > (also rode fixed a good while on a bike with a fair bit of overlap) but I > do find it an annoyance that I'd really prefer to remove from my riding > experience - particularly on a bike I load up > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/33ba6c22-ce45-4093-ae85-e32a08798219%40googlegroups.com.