Hi Corwin,

Sigh. I will explain this again. 

*I don’t like how the Betty rides compared to the longer chainstay bikes. A 
Cheviot has longer chainstays. 

* I find the decals/headbadge/name of the Cheviot superior. I like it better.

* I love Rivendell mixtes and want a Cheviot to go along with my Clem.

*I don’t mean that the Betty can’t take dyno. I mean I would need new wheels. 
Ryan suggested I put the Betty wheels on my Clem. I don’t want the Betty wheels 
because they don’t take dyno.

Leah

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> On Apr 10, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Corwin <ernf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Leah -
> 
> I'm not here to quibble with your decision/preference to sell the Betz for a 
> Cheviot. I do seriously doubt that any Betz is incompatible with dyno. I have 
> several bikes with dyno - most of them from Rivendell. The only way the Betz 
> could be incompatible with dyno is if you turned it into a unicycle. I will 
> grant you that converting the Betz to dyno would require a new front wheel. 
> But that does not constitute incompatibility in my opinion.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Corwin
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 7:51:02 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Oh Ryan, so salty. I didn’t know you had 650B - I did know you had 700 c. I 
>> am thinking of getting dyno though...would need to have dyno 
>> compatibility...do you have those in your basement somewhere too? 😜
>> 
>> I’m not good at pulling parts off one bike and installing on another! It was 
>> better to just sell the whole Betz. Don’t you think I deserve some new 
>> wheels? Betz is 8 year old now. And not compatible with dyno.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Apr 8, 2020, at 7:13 PM, 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>> <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Leah,
>>> I have a wonderful 650B velocity wheel set you may try.  Also have g-ones 
>>> tires and Hetras you could try.  A different size rim will require an 
>>> adjustment to brake pads.
>>> 
>>> It does frustrate me slightly that you ignore my advice about wheel and 
>>> tire improvement on ride and weight until 4-5 others state the same claim.  
>>> Oh well what do I know.
>>> 
>>> For the record the least expensive option would have been to simply swap 
>>> parts wheels etc from the Betz build over to the Clem to see which 
>>> modifications were worth the build.
>>> 
>>> However since you boxed up the bike before trying the other wheels and had 
>>> no mechanic to help you with the swap and now the Benz has a new owner; 
>>> therefore shopping for and buying new parts (wheels and tires 1st) buying 
>>> used parts or borrowing some from me is really your only options.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Ryan Hankinson
>>> West Michigan
>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:02:00 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I’m not fully committing to this yet. Roberta and I get into trouble 
>>>> because we talk on Marco Polo and then we get ideas and then we like each 
>>>> other’s ideas and the next thing we know our wallets are on fire. 
>>>> 
>>>> So, I am ordering a Cheviot, and I am spending extra $ to build it with 
>>>> light parts. But that bike is a long way off, months, in fact. Meanwhile, 
>>>> Roberta is giving her beloved Appaloosa a makeover and it is getting lots 
>>>> of new parts and she’s having all the fun. And since we’re #Rivsisters and 
>>>> I’m like that little sister who wants what her sister has, I want to 
>>>> explore what it would take to lighten up my Clem L, which is my only bike 
>>>> at present, and which is quite heavy. You’ll have heard me mention this in 
>>>> Joe’s What Is A Cheviot thread. If my Clem could lose a little weight it 
>>>> would be the most perfect bike anyone could dream up. A Susie version of 
>>>> Clems would be just so ideal - someone should tell Riv. 
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, if I got aluminum Bosco bars, and new wheels (don’t ask me what 
>>>> kind, how would I know?) would this make my bike feel considerably 
>>>> lighter? I don’t think I can give up my front derailleur because I use it 
>>>> for Killer Hill. And what if I wanted to add dyno while I was at it? Would 
>>>> that negate my weight savings? Also, I’m keeping my racks; I can’t part 
>>>> with those. Maybe I’m not the best candidate for this... 
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone built a Clem up with lighter parts? Does it make a big 
>>>> difference? As in, is it worth the money? 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks! 
>>>> Leah
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