Hi,

On Apr 6, 7:21 pm, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unless I've missed it, most folks have talked about the roll-up Ortliebs.  
>
> I've got some newer style ones (bike packer plus), with a flap closure, 
> fold-seal outer pocket, inner pocket for a few items, etc..  they are 
> exceptional, and I've not yet found a rack they didn't adjust to quite well.  
> A little spendy, and a little bit awkward to carry when off the bike (if you 
> need to), but for largish, sturdy, weatherproofish, panniers with lots of 
> reflection and compression to take up the slack, I think they cannot be beat.
>
>

Thanks for posting that.  Those are the Orliebs I'm considering, and
they seem cheap compared to the Arkels, Carradice, and Berthoud
panniers.

> That being said, i'm thinking of getting a set of the brown LaplanderBags 
> "City Waxed Canvas" ones cuz they are so darn attractive, and will complete 
> the look of my orange Sam.
>

The storefront says they are sold out.  :(

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