I'd suggest a right sized roadini, note the latest email says they are 
going to start letting buyers take care of frame prep and headset install, 
either themselves or via a shop they trust.
Or a Black Mountain Cycles Road. Heck of a good value for your $.
Were I buying new with your priorities I'd pick between those two based on 
aesthetic and stem style preference.

I'm very happy with my BMC Road V3, very well behaved, quite zippy. I also 
really like the looks of my wife's Roadini though I've not ridden it.


On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 7:06:09 PM UTC-7, Andrew Turner wrote:
>
> Hello Group.
> Maybe I'll just start this conversation off with what I'm searching for 
> and I'll add the backstory after. 
>
>    - steel frame + fork (lugged preferably) that could clear 700x32 tires 
>    - rim brake
>    - lightish tubing ( I weigh a scant 132lbs at 6'1") 
>    - DT shifter braze-ons 
>    - Trying to keep the price to no more than $1000 for frame + fork
>    - Frames of all ages welcome 
>    - Designed to hold weight in the front (but I can make do with a 
>    saddlebag)
>
> Bikes I've had in the past to try to fit these requirements: 
>
>    - VO Campeur: way better suited for heavy touring. Way stouter than I 
>    need.
>    - Black Mtn Cycles monster cross: pretty nice but that frame really 
>    wanted tires in the 38mm+ range which is overkill for me. 
>    - Rivendell Roadini: damn fine frame and very comfortable. Tig welded 
>    though and I might've gotten too large of frame with the 61cm. On my list 
>    of possibilities though. The quality was also a disappointment for my 
> first 
>    riv, chipped paint out of the box and very poorly installed headset. 
>
> I just got done with my first longer ride on a 58cm Gazelle Champion 
> Mondial AA frame . I built it up because riding my first brevet on the VO 
> Campeur a year ago made me realize how important a more nimble bike, 
> especially for majority road use, is. But I might've gone too far. It's a 
> rocket no doubt but I found it fatiguing having to stay so vigilant on 
> descents. And putting the weight up front lead to a very close call down a 
> particularly sketchy downhill. I think slacker geometry might help with 
> that ;) 
>
> All this to say, if any of you rando kids have some suggestions I'm all 
> ears! 
>
> Thanks Group, 
> Andrew
>
>

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