oh, I mean this was painted by Rick Stefani and I gave him the joe bell painted 
Sachs' photos as a reference. it was a $350 paint job so I'm happy w whatever I 
get, but per Joe Bell, upon seeing a Rick job he told grant 'well I guess you 
don't need me anymore'

also - not sure what red your Sachs is but there have been several different 
reds used throughout the years / seasons. I didn't want candy paint for sure, 
I'm hoping this is closer to a pearl. remember it's also not a stock paint job 
ala any of the production Sam's. this was originally an orange sam that I was 
able to get on discount from Riv because the paint was marred somewhere. I took 
the discount as an opportunity to get a riv in the color that I wanted for a 
price pretty close to retail. 


>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 11:40 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>> <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Funny you should mention ATMO red. I have a Richard Sachs in the classic red 
> Sachs color scheme, and the paint job is actually pretty interesting.
> 
> The red color is what’s called a “candy” in the paint world—a translucent 
> color painted over a base coat of a different color. In this case, the red 
> candy color is on top of a bright white base color.
> 
> What happens when the bike is in the sun is that the light goes through the 
> red, bounces off the white and re-emerges back through the red. In person, 
> it’s stunning, like the tubes were lit from within.
> 
> I suspect that the Sam Hillbornes are painted in a solid red color. Nice, but 
> not the same.
> 
> P.S. Expect to pay around $1,500 for Joe Bell to lay down a paint job like 
> the one on my Sachs. It’s quite difficult and involves numerous layers of 
> paint and lots of hand work. One little mistake anywhere in the process, and 
> it’s ruined.
> 
> More about JB (who has painted many custom Ribs): www.JoeBell.net 
> 
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roland <absolutegal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Definitely looks close to the official ATMO red.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 8:35:17 PM UTC-4, Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>> rad red (ish) atmo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> to clarify, this isn't the new color. i asked riv to have my new same 
>>> painted (first riv). looking foward to receiving it and hoping they feature 
>>> it on the blug blagh instagram email etc, wherever. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Monday, July 6, 2020 at 8:40:18 PM UTC-4, Evan E. wrote:
>>>> Tuxedo Sam (black with cream accents, kind of like a fresh-poured 
>>>> Guinness).
>> 
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