Yeah, it had flaws for sure .  I’ve lost all of my words should say giving
away all of my cycling jerseys and I’m gonna need to pick up some bright
colored T-shirts and other things to be seen when I’m riding. I don’t ride
at night so that’s not an issue but these people should be able to see me.
And of course we all know that’s really not gonna help all that much
because people can be looking at their phones and doing a variety of other
things.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:21 PM Toshi Takeuchi <tto...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The study referenced below asked the viewers when they were confident they
> saw a cyclist.
>
> The study did not ask when they saw a potential road hazard/something to
> watch out for.
>
> Therefore they could see a bright shirt and think, well maybe it's a
> pedestrian or a construction worker, but not a cyclist.
>
> --However, practically speaking, it is important to note that they saw it
> and it is a potential hazard that they should not hit.  The driver doesn't
> have to know it's a cyclist to know that you don't want to run into it!
>
> --Don't get the impression that a black shirt is as good as a fluorescent
> shirt because it didn't help you get recognized as a cyclist any better.
> That fluorescent shirt is going to tell the drivers don't run into me
> (whether it's a pedestrian, cyclist or construction worker!) much better
> than a black shirt, and this study didn't test for that.
>
> Toshi
>
>
> Toshi
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 4:57 PM Joel Stern <jrster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I read a study that pretty much said that
>>
>> https://www.roadbikerider.com/incisive-new-studies-on-cyclist-visibility-d3/
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:55 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joel: I'm glad you were not hit,
>>>
>>> Ads appear from time to time advertising the "brightest tail light" and
>>> while I've not seen any recently I think NiteRider and Cygolight make 2 of
>>> the bright ones. But I wonder if bright lights, any more than neon-yellow
>>> clothing, will make much difference in bright sunlight -- "studies showed"
>>> that clothing color didn't.
>>>
>>> What happened?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:55 PM Joel <jrster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in
>>>> daylight.  I a interested in front and back lights to help me be more
>>>> visible, your thoughts and experiences are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Joel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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