Speaking of blinding lights contrasted with useful illumination: Back about
2002 or so I bought NiteRider's then brand-new, state-of-art, truly
dentist-level-price arc light system, headlamp and tail lamp (was the tail
lamp an early LED? I forget). That thing was so bright that, when I rode
down our residential street, oncoming cars more than once pulled waaaay
over to the opposite curb; and one night, riding through the Fairgrounds on
the way home, a cop yelled, "That is one bright light!" -- and we all know
that cops are hard to impress.

But the beam was unfocused, and the nearfield brightness basically ruined
distance vision. I got rid of it because the damned thing kept breaking,
and went to the other side of the chart with 2 X 4-AA Vistalight or
whatever it was $25 first-gen LED lights strapped to each fork leg; watts
and lumens a fraction of what they replaces, but to my surprise and
pleasure, providing as much useful illumination as the NR system costing 8X
as much.

The 1,200 lumen (high; 600 low) K-Lite is much the same, not as bright of
course, but I do welcome this indiscriminate blanket of light when riding
through bosque thicket-tunnels at night.

Aside: philosophical musing; delete if you are of a purely practical mind.
Speaking of "lumens" and even "lux" and "candlepower:" I was thinking about
this recently; each of these metrics -- some more relevant to real night
illumination than others -- are all indirect means (= "middle") of applying
discrete quantity (this means "counting" because that is what you do with
number) to something inherently non-quantitative by means of an intervening
magnitude or continuous quantity; similar to describing "red" in terms of
wavelength by means of a patch of red on the wall. "Illumination" in the
sense of "how well does this let me see?" is non-quantitative and refers
back to (resolves to) the primal experience of seeing at night; just as
"red" inescapably means "this particular experience of seeing," and every
subsequent definition ineluctably refers back to such primary experience,
on pain of meaning nothing -- something often forgotten. So there. End
musing.

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 11:44 AM masmojo <masm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> ... Yes, Lumens is not really relevant to overall visibility or the
> ability to see at night and is merely a measure of Brightness or Intensity,
> Overall visibility is represented by the LUX measurement which actually
> measures the area of usable illumination. Most German manufacturers use
> this rating system, but some manufacturers don't (to my knowledge) I have
> some SuperNova lights that I like quite a bit and their advertising would
> make it sound like they would scorch the surface of the earth, but they
> don't really seem any brighter that my 70LUX B&M's!!??  All the ratings
> that I see for them are in Lumens not Lux?
>
> One thing I always say and apologizes if you've heard it before, " 4
> things that should require an IQ test & don't: Getting a Drivers License,
> Voting, Jury Duty, and buying a gun." Maybe you could add getting a
> marriage certificate and/or having Kids? LOL
>

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