You can drop down from Bill's Velocity quill to Velocity A23 rims and still
have a nice wheelset and save a little more.  I use A23s on my Roadeo.

Toshi in Oakland, CA

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 12:09 PM Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The ultimate I think is what I have on my Sam:
>
> HED Belgium C2 Plus rims
> White Industries MI5 rear hub
> Dynamo front hub of your choice
>
> That would be about an $800 wheelset all-new, but it's perfect for a light
> Sam build.  If I had to try to get close on a budget, I'd substitute
> Shimano M737 hubs from ebay, and Velocity Quill rims.  Then you could get
> it done for around $400 or so.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 11:24:53 AM UTC-7 Erik Wright wrote:
>
>> Hey bunch,
>>
>> I recently sold my Roadini and so my Sam H has taken the reins as my drop
>> bar road bike. Until this week it'd been my fendered, basketed, dynamo'd,
>> Choco bar'd townie, but a Mercier Kilo WT fixed gear has taken over that
>> slot through the upcoming winter.
>>
>> Riding my Sam this morning definitely felt like I was pushing some
>> weight. I don't expect my Sam to feel as nimble and snappy as the Roadini
>> did, but I think it could certainly lose some weight. Based on what I've
>> learned over the years, it sounds like the wheelset is the easiest place to
>> make a noticeable difference. I'm currently running a Rich-built Atlas rear
>> wheel (unsure of the hub) and a Shimano dynamo'd Dyad in the front, with
>> 700x44 Snoqualmie Pass standard casing tires. Seems like a pretty hefty
>> wheelset (especially for my 150lb self) that makes sense for the
>> commutery/touring build, and maybe it still makes sense for a more
>> road-oriented build, but I'm curious to hear some thoughts.
>>
>> What wheelset (hub/rim combo) would you recommend for a Sam that's going
>> to see 80% pavement, 20% rougher stuff/gravel, carry *light* 5-10lb loads
>> from time to time, and likely run 700x38 tires (to leave the option open
>> for fenders)?
>>
>> If you've got something in your parts bin that fits the bill, send me a
>> PM. If buying used, I'd like to spend something in the $200 range (flexible
>> based on tubeless ready/dynamo/etc).
>>
>> Maybe I should just cut off the second top tube to shave grams? Maybe
>> then it'd plane
>>
>> Erik, Philly
>>
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