I frequently ride on a beautiful rails-to-trail near my home and since March I've been riding with a mask. Especially on a nice day, the trail is filled with people who don't have any kind of protective masks. I realize that "outdoors" is less of a risk, but I cannot fathom why groups of 2 or more walk, run, ride or just are in public with no protection for themselves or others. After months of wearing and trying different masks, I have settled on a favorite. I started with the face gaitors, then went to different style cloth masks, all from various makers (Mandala, Mambe, home-made by a friend who is a seamstress, UnderArmour, Ibex Merino and finally the disposable blue surgical masks. The blue surgical masks fit best (I have a full beard) and didn't fog my glasses too much. We purchased 100s in bulk from Amazon. For the last month or two, I've switched to a black KN95 masks and for me these fit even better than the surgical masks and work best for me when I'm on the bike. Even though they are disposable, after a one-hour ride when I remove my helmet and gloves, I'll sometimes let the mask dry and reuse a second time. I have masks in most pockets of my clothing, just in case I need to interact with the outside world. Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 12:01 PM Dave Grossman <gma...@gmail.com> wrote: > I teach physical education and have been teaching in person since August. > I work in a mask all day long while exercising and lecturing. I've found > the 3 ply disposable surgical masks to be the best. They allow me to speak > without issue and I can breathe in them. I also had to do a stress > test/ECG and wore one and ran for 19 minutes with one on, so its doable. > > On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 10:56:45 AM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote: > >> Joel: >> >> The CDC recommends that people wear a mask “… in public settings … and >> anywhere they will be around other people.” If I’m riding in the great >> outdoors by myself, I think the CDC guidances is that a mask is not >> necessary. When I ride, I carry a mask, which I put on anytime I’m stopped >> and either inside or around others. >> >> P.S. The American Lung Association also recommends mask wearing: >> >> *"Masks are not 100% effective, but mask wearing does decrease the risk >> of viral spread. Public health professionals believe that mask wearing and >> social distancing are the keys to controlling the first wave and >> diminishing or avoiding subsequent waves of the virus. Mask wearing allows >> us to open the economy up faster. Not wearing a mask around others only >> worsens the pandemic, leads to more disease, and worsens the economic >> effects."* >> >> And: >> >> *“… wearing a mask is showing respect for others and is your way of >> helping lessen the spread of the disease."* >> >> https://www.lung.org/blog/covid-masks >> >> At this point, saying there is “controversy” around mask wearing is like >> saying there is “controversy” around whether the earth is flat, just >> because there are a bunch of web sites and YouTube videos saying it is. >> >> --Eric Norris >> campyo...@me.com >> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy >> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy >> >> On Nov 24, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Joel S <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> I wish they would come out with a list of masks that might help. There >> is much controversy. I wear a mask anywhere others are and just don’t know >> if they do much good. I believe they do cause us breathing problems if >> used for prolonged times. I have 2 nice fabric masks, one with a pocket >> that will allow a coffee filter that is supposed to be a good protective >> layer but seems to make breathing more difficult. I also have some >> surgical style masks with no clue if they truly work. Being retired I can >> limit my exposure. >> >> Question, why wear a mask when riding a bike (or driving a car)? >> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:41:06 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote: >> >>> The CDC recommends mask wearing, both to protect you from others and to >>> protect them from you: >>> >>> CDC recommends that people wear masks in public settings, like on public >>> and mass transportation, at events and gatherings, and anywhere they will >>> be around other people. >>> >>> Note that the CDC does not know at this time whether face shields are >>> effective: >>> >>> >>> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html >>> >>> Same page at the CDC web site has advice on choosing a mask. >>> >>> –Eric N >>> >>> >>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:25 AM, Sky Coulter <incomm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I haven’t found a simple mask that doesn’t fog my glasses to some degree >>> or other. Closely pinching a wire frame along the top to the bridge of your >>> nose wolill reduce the fog as long as u have the sides of the mask w a bit >>> of a gap for the hot air to escape thru. >>> >>> I have to wear a half mask respirator for work and find it is pretty >>> good for keeping fog away from glasses. I also found it was bearable for >>> commuting to and from work (12km w hills each way), but i did have to avoid >>> maximal exertion and control my breathing pattern better than i might >>> otherwise. >>> >>> We use the 3m 6200 mask c p100 filters (7093): the mask is around twenty >>> bucks, the filters around 30-40. >>> >>> https://www.amazon.ca/3M-Safety-142-6100-Reusable-Respirator/dp/B01HMF7V0M/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=respirator&qid=1606209733&sr=8-5 >>> >>> >>> Sky in new west >>> >>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA < >>> benzo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’m usually skeptic of simplified news reporting, especially in the >>> presumed context of (rightly) trying to convince the general public that >>> masks aren’t really an impediment to daily routine activities. Regardless, >>> what >>> exertion level did they measure the various oxygen levels at? If one is >>> just riding along, unracer-like, enjoying the scenery, and smelling the >>> flowers, I can believe that. However, if one is trying for a PR up Hamilton >>> or Monte Bello, I’ll need to see the data and experimental setup to be >>> convinced. Actually, I should just borrow my wife’s pulse oximeter and >>> figure out the effects, if any, of masking , at various exertion levels, >>> especially since I’m going exactly nowhere this Thanksgiving. >>> >>> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 8:10:10 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote: >>> >>>> I just saw a news report that had a study showing that masks don’t have >>>> any effect on your oxygen levels. That say they feel like they do but the >>>> numbers show you are still getting the same oxygen moving around your body >>>> as you would without a mask. >>>> >>>> I have a hard time wearing a mask while riding so I wear one pulled >>>> down and “deploy” it when the need arises. My mask of choice is the Wald >>>> mask since they fit ok and have some nice bikey patterns. >>>> >>>> Robert Tilley >>>> San Diego, CA >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA < >>>> benzo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The thing with masks is that if they're not a bit constrictive, they >>>> probably don't work (except for face shields, but who wants to look like a >>>> welder with a transparent shield?). That's the nature of filters. Having >>>> said that, there's constrictive, and there's *constrictive*. I should >>>> say that none are constrictive to the extent claimed by anti-maskers. >>>> >>>> >>>> I find the least constrictive is one that has the largest surface area >>>> and that also does the job. Duh! But *how* do you know if it does the >>>> job? Given that masks are at least half a prophylactic against transmission >>>> to *others*, an easy way of determining efficacy, without specialized >>>> tools, is to try blowing out candles that are within a few inches of your >>>> face, with the mask on. If you can blow out said candle, the mask isn't >>>> effective enough. Stay away from the N95 masks with one-way valves; sure, >>>> they're nice for you, but they do not mitigate the dispersion of droplets >>>> to others as you exhale. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I find buffs, wool ones, double-layer-up, and merely lightly >>>> snug around the mouth+nose instead of tight, to be efficacious and least >>>> constrictive. In fact, I use that when cycling in cold weather. With the >>>> proper eyewear, I don't experience fogging issues when on the move. In >>>> addition, you may also want to look into anti-fog treatments, especially as >>>> eyewear will fog up even without masks when one suddenly stops, in between >>>> exertions. >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 2:10:42 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can anyone suggest one, preferably one that is easy on/off, or at >>>>> least easy to slip down when solitary and up when in public? I've been >>>>> using basic cloth masks and (1) they're suffocating under any exertion, >>>>> (2) >>>>> they fog my shades, (3) the ear loops detach easily from your ears, so >>>>> slipping them down often pulls them off. >>>>> >>>>> I am quite prepared to learn that the entire official protocol for >>>>> infection avoidance is bunkum, and I am heartily disposed to believe that >>>>> my political leaders are both inept and corrupt, or at least driven >>>>> principally by self interest, but the situation is serious enough that I >>>>> am >>>>> willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and wear masks around >>>>> others, >>>>> especially since some others seem panicky if you don't. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/663e4ad3-0314-40e1-bd7b-b5e04d0654aan%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/663e4ad3-0314-40e1-bd7b-b5e04d0654aan%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/85cb93ea-7b1e-4d33-97da-d3e1e820154fn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/85cb93ea-7b1e-4d33-97da-d3e1e820154fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/238F933C-F501-4B03-9376-162C1FCA4BF9%40gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/238F933C-F501-4B03-9376-162C1FCA4BF9%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/017e8645-e132-4d84-9200-f5374fd5571an%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/017e8645-e132-4d84-9200-f5374fd5571an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/27d604d1-35f0-4ea0-ad58-3ebdcb859043n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/27d604d1-35f0-4ea0-ad58-3ebdcb859043n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA https://www.twistcomm.com/FredBikes.html <http://www.twistcomm.com/FredBikes.html> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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