Jim,  several years ago I had a double TT 64cm Atlantis that I took on a tour 
up around the Olympic peninsula. It also was a touch too large for me.   In 
touring mode I had it loaded up with a Pass and Stow front rack with a basket 
on top and two medium sized low rider front panniers. On the rear I had a 
medium saddle sack that sat on a Nitto r-14 rack.    It was probably  75/25 ; 
front/ rear weight distribution.   That bike rode awesome( to me) in that 
configuration.    Leaving an empty-ish camp one morning on a quiet stretch of 
road,  I rode no handed for ~7miles on a gently curvy road. It felt smooth and 
in control.  (. There were mile markers and when solo on the road sometimes you 
make games for yourself).   I’ll never forget that.  Just anecdotally 
reiterating your experience that sometimes a bike can feel better with some 
weight.    -Mike

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> On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:01 PM, dougP <dougpn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Anything bike related that I don't want goes to my local bicycle co-op.  They 
> depend on donations to keep bikes owned by low income people running.  What 
> feels like a crappy, sluggish tire to me could be wonderful to someone who 
> just needs new rubber to get back'n'forth to work on.  Never toss out a 
> "tried & disliked" item.  Donate.
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:24:28 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>> Thanks for the ideas and observations, everyone.  I will try lowering the 
>> tire pressure tomorrow.  New tires soon, too.
>> 
>> Jason and Mark, I think you are right that the Clem ought to fit me.  By the 
>> numbers it does.  My favorite bike to ride around town is an old mountain 
>> bike with a 53cm seat tube that ought to be too small for me, but it's 
>> sprightly and a lot of fun to ride.
>> 
>> I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good pipe.  
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 10:40 PM Mark Roland <absolut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I doubt the pipe is doing much for your Clem other than perhaps 
>>> contributing to some beausage on your top tube. The bike certainly doesn't 
>>> seem like it would be too big for a 6'1"--Grant runs a 59 Clem and he is 
>>> under six foot. 
>>> 
>>> I never changed the Kendas on my OC (Original Clementine) and yeah they 
>>> were a little sluggish, though not the end of the world. On my El Clem, I 
>>> went with Rene Herse Switchback Hill EL. Pretty dreamy. I would never 
>>> describe a Clem as a lumbering hulk, though, so your mileage may vary.  
>>> Before getting a smaller bike I would drop a buck sixty on some fancy tires 
>>> and see what happens.
>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:37:33 PM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:
>>>> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 PBH). 
>>>>  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
>>>> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
>>>> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
>>>> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on 
>>>> the bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great. 
>>>>  It didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother. 
>>>>  The simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, 
>>>> because adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  
>>>> But....is it possible I was not confused?
>>>> 
>>>> I will try to insert a picture.  
>>>> 
>>>> Jim in Rochester
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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