I've been toying with this for a few weeks: 
https://www.amazon.com/Wald-Rear-Medium-Basket-13-5X6-25X11/dp/B001EL7P34?th=1

I see folks piling ridiculous amounts of junk on baskets and strapped to 
saddlebags because panniers aren't "cool" anymore. Why not start your own 
new style of basket pannier packing. If it takes off, I'm sure a new 
cottage industry of makers will sell custom Wald 520 bags to go in the 
baskets (thus become panniers again), available in any waxed canvas color 
you want. I'm joking, of course.  
(I'm not joking about the Wald pannier baskets on my Clem...)

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 6:35:40 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Unfortunately throwing money at it until I'm happy doesn't sit as well 
> with my inner light!
>
> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 6:32:36 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> Considering gravity is at best theoretical, so are it's associated 
>> calculations. So I'd say adorn the bike any way you wish, whatever the 
>> "inner light" reveals. We all have an unfiltered and unquestionable 
>> inherent sense of that.  
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 12:52:41 AM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> On my Atlantis, I always have a handlebar bag.  When I use panniers, the 
>>> fronts are always used, and the rears only when needing to carry a camping 
>>> load.  After much experimentation, I've come to the conclusion that for me 
>>> & my bike, when using 4 bags, 60% front load & 40% rear gave best 
>>> handling.  Others probably have different preferences.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 7:50:37 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...or the rear?
>>>>
>>>> Discuss.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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