Shoot, I forgot a detail. I believe the CX70 is a 10-speed derailer, hence 
the narrowness. 



On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:41:09 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> It will fit that shim if it doesn't already have its own. Is it better 
> than Claris? It's prettier and lighter, but I've used both with Silver 
> shifters and they were great..I suspect you have a problem elsewhere 
> causing unsmooth shifting. Or it's a worn out Claris. 
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> I don't remember if I shifted a triple with CX70 so can't help there, but 
> its narrowness might be an issue with an 8-speed chain. It means lots of 
> trimming to keep those cage plates away from the chain, a thing I'm very 
> OCD about and don't enjoy at all. If you're like me, stick with 8-speed 
> front derailers! 
>
> Joe Bernard
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> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 8:44:40 PM UTC-7 Doug Williams wrote:
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>> I have a Hilsen with 28.6mm seat tube and it looks like there is already 
>> a shim on there to mount my derailer, a clamp on Shimano Claris Triple. The 
>> shim seems to make it about 32mm. So if I replace this derailer, would a 
>> 31.8/28.6 clamp on be correct?
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>> I found a bottom pull Shimano CX70 in that size that looks nice. Everyone 
>> raves about the CX70 so I wonder if it would be better than my Claris? The 
>> Claris basically works, but it is not exactly smooth. I am currently 
>> running the Sugino Triple Crank 46-36-24 but I might switch to the Rene 
>> Herse 42-26 or wait for Riv's Silver Triple 44-34-24 to be back in stock. 
>> In any event, when this set of chain rings wears out, I am done with the 
>> Sugino hidden bolt. I just stripped the bitch and had to drill it out, so 
>> I'm done with hidden bolts.
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>> So...would the CX70 work with both double and triple 8 speed friction 
>> only (Silver Bar End) shifters? Or is it only going to work with a double? 
>> Would the CX70 be better than the Claris?
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