I agree, I also think modern gravel bikes would be better off with 26" x 55mm tyres, rather than 700 x 42 or whatever the 'standard' is this year.
Couple of possible additions to the list: Raleigh Tamarack - an early and seemingly unsuccessful attempt at a 650B mtb: photo (not mine) here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7556426@N06/1424440013/ Bianchi Project Series - there is a bit of discussion about these but it seems the Project 7 was an early attempt at a 29" MTB rather than a hybrid. Would probably do nicely as a version of one of Rivendell's 29" models, if you could find one. On Tue, 11 May 2021 at 18:44, Matthew P <matthewpendergr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Johnny, thanks for the link. And Michael, thanks for the feedback. > This clarifies things. Sounds like the biggest downfall of the bike was > just the 26" wheel size, and is only a downfall in terms of acceptance and > not in performance. > Its sad to think that a market preference for 700c wheels, with skinny > tires, "killed" 26" bikes like the Rock Combo. > Something like the visionaries having to follow the blind. > I'll tack some on to my question in my previous post: desired allrounder > bikes of yore - > - Rock Combo > - XO-1 > - MB-1 and MB-0 ? > - Hunqapillar > Happy to see additions or subtractions to/from this list. > @kevs_bikes and @sfbiketrader have some interesting ones on Instagram. > > On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:51 AM UTC-7 Michael Iauch wrote: > >> thanks for that link johnny. matthew - mine does have some pretty shoddy >> tig - seat tube connection has a hole. The BB height did seem excessively >> low when I first jumped on it, but surprisingly I haven't had too much >> issue out riding, even on some pretty rough trail. And that is pretty much >> what I ride it on - rougher mixed terrain rides. It has that magic feel. >> Would love to have a Rivendell to compare it to! >> >> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 3:19:51 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> @Matthew P >>> >>> Here's a slightly more detailed version of the criticism of the Rock >>> Combo, seems like Bryan Bainbridge was unhappy >>> that the factory that made them changed the BB drop and the tubing spec >>> (the comment at the bottom of the page is from BB himself): >>> >>> >>> http://2wheelfetish.blogspot.com/2012/04/drop-bar-mountain-bike-redux-vintage.html >>> >>> I still love the Rock Combo concept and design though. >>> >>> Johnny in Belgium >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 18:43:18 UTC+2 Matthew P wrote: >>> >>>> I love this thread. >>>> And I like Liam's RockCombo on the Radavist >>>> https://theradavist.com/2021/02/liams-specialized-rock-combo-bikepacking-rig/ >>>> But I thought it interesting and funny that they went and asked the >>>> bike designer (or one of them), Bryant Bainbridge, and he basically trashed >>>> it! >>>> Thoughts? >>>> Any other particularly coveted bikes of yore, and why? >>>> Thanks. >>>> -Matthew >>>> >>>> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:33:59 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>> >>>>> Meanwhile this group is full of folks with Rivendells who lust after a >>>>> Rock Combo 😍 beauty collection, that 615 is amazing too >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 08:34:17 UTC-7 Michael Iauch wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Im in the same category Clayton! hope to get a rivendell at some >>>>>> point. until then - saracen conquest 650b, miyata 615, specialized rock >>>>>> combo. >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> Boone, NC. >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: 804F00C5-FD25-4907-BD37-23C5CD513C4B_1_105_c.jpeg][image: >>>>>> 6C3B2396-11F8-4B6F-99BD-1F399F91C96D_1_105_c.jpeg][image: >>>>>> 3E13D09B-31DC-4501-BC22-F41A43CE54D0_1_105_c.jpeg] >>>>>> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:21:07 AM UTC-4 Jim Bronson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What brakes did you use on your Raleigh to convert from 27" to 700c >>>>>>> rims? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 10, 2021, 09:29 Bob Ehrenbeck <ree...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do own a Riv (a 52 Clem H, purchased as a frame during the >>>>>>>> original pre-sale), but it's been built up as an MTB, so it doesn't >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> have that classic Rivendell look. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But I also have a 1981 Raleigh Super Record that's been >>>>>>>> reconfigured over the years to look Riv-ish. It started out as a >>>>>>>> five-speed, 27" drop-bar bike with stem shifters, but now it's got 700C >>>>>>>> rims, a six-speed freewheel, Albatross bars, Suntour Bar-Con shifters, >>>>>>>> Brooks B-17 saddle, cork grips, VO fenders, Carradice Barley saddlebag, >>>>>>>> bell, etc. Since this photo was taken I've added a Mark's Rack in the >>>>>>>> rear. >>>>>>>> And after swapping out the crankset, seat post and other heavier >>>>>>>> parts, the >>>>>>>> only original items left (aside from the frame) are the hubs, stem, >>>>>>>> derailleurs, and brake calipers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob E >>>>>>>> Cranford, NJ[image: Raleigh Sandy Hook copy.jpg] >>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 5:10:33 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is pretty! And an extra gold star for the light mount. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 11:19:58 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ... Here's my '87 FW Evans back when it was doing double duty as >>>>>>>>>> a errands bike and quick road bike. It's much less sexy these days >>>>>>>>>> sporting >>>>>>>>>> 9 speed bits, fenders, and sturdier rubber, and it's loving life as a >>>>>>>>>> designated commuter. I had a quick stint with a Roadini but >>>>>>>>>> otherwise I'm >>>>>>>>>> in a similar boat: blissfully watching from a distance at all these >>>>>>>>>> cool >>>>>>>>>> riv builds...but I'm also still very content with what used >>>>>>>>>> framesets have >>>>>>>>>> left to offer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: 2021-01-23.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/639f15b7-8423-4e2d-9bbe-56f98580cef9n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/639f15b7-8423-4e2d-9bbe-56f98580cef9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ZmkKkSwGG9k/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/255af66c-27c0-4482-be69-de245b0c0e1cn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/255af66c-27c0-4482-be69-de245b0c0e1cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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