Hi all, I've been lurking for a few weeks. I'm reading this thread with great interest as I managed to snag one of the orange Appaloosa frames from Riv and am now speccing it out so they can build it for me. For the front rack, I intend to go the route that Bones has chosen, the 27F Nitto Campee rack with the Wald basket, likely the 137.
Bones your bike looks great! Would love to see more photos actually. Is that the Wald 137 basket attached to your rack? Question about the Dynamo eyelet on the 27F, is the eyelet on the right side only? And I assume I would need the Nitto lamp holder to attach the light to the rack, correct? (hopefully this question didn't detract from the focus of this thread) Take care, Adam On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 10:41:39 AM UTC-4 antc...@gmail.com wrote: > Bones, that 27 looks great! My only qualms would be that it puts the > weight farther forward than a Mark's or 32f. I'm running a Mark's on a > different bike and actually drilled a hole in the diving board so I could > sit it as far back as possible. I'm a bit anal about the weigh being as low > and central as possible. I love the looks of your set up though, very clean! > > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 9:25:27 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > >> I settled on the 27F for my Appaloosa: >> >> - Not nearly as bulky as the 34F >> - Much stronger than the 32F >> - Has four mounting points (I used the mid fork and dropout >> braze-ons, no brake interference) >> - Can support a wald medium or large (without looking weird), or even >> just a trunksack >> - Detachable pannier mounts (and looks pretty minimal without them) >> - Dynamo eyelet >> >> If I didn't go with this I'd probably be looking into a Pass and Stow >> rack. >> >> Bones >> >> [image: 27f.jpg] >> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 9:22:05 AM UTC-4 Adam wrote: >> >>> This discussion is useful. >>> >>> I'm curious if anyone has tried the VLC Rockit rack? It looks like it >>> might be something in between the various Nitto options. I can't tell how >>> well it might work with panniers. >>> >>> I'm also curious about the Rawland options. (With an additional >>> low-rider) >>> >>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 2:35:07 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote: >>> >>>> The 34f is a lot of rack. The 32f isn't enough rack for a basket with >>>> any kind of load in it. Not even because of the weight. The wald basket >>>> allows a small weight to put a torque on the rack that it isn't designed >>>> to >>>> take and Nitto says specifically not to do it. The Marks rack is actually >>>> stronger in this application. Nitto still says don't do it but in my (and >>>> everyone else with a marks rack + wald 137) experience it's fine. >>>> >>>> I have run a 34f mounted on my appaloosa using the supplied P clamps >>>> flattened out into a bracket that screwed directly to the middle fork >>>> brazeons. Very sturdy. >>>> If looks matter a 137 looks weird mounted to it. Mounted longitudinally >>>> and the weight is toooooo far forward and mounted normally the rack sticks >>>> too far out and looks awkward. Mind you a 139 would fix this aesthetic >>>> issue and give you huge capacity. However Rivs don't handle great with >>>> lots >>>> of front weight, in general. >>>> >>>> Can post a photo of the bracket hack if you are interested. Any bit of >>>> flat aluminium with holes drilled would also work. Probably still can't >>>> recommend the 34f though, Unless you* need* it. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 15 July 2021 at 10:20:32 UTC+8 Ed Carolipio wrote: >>>> >>>>> I ran the Mark's rack on the Appaloosa with four stays (the rear stays >>>>> mounted on the top of the fork), no diving board, wide canti brakes >>>>> (Tektro >>>>> CR 720), and a regular Wald. (Not sure if the Mark's will work with a >>>>> V-brake in that configuration.) For extra hauling, I would tack on a >>>>> Nitto >>>>> hub area rack with both racks sharing the mid fork braze on. That was my >>>>> preferred setup because it gave me flexibility, and no configuration >>>>> under >>>>> load affected handling with the Albatross bars and 90mm stem I was >>>>> running. >>>>> >>>>> I tried running a Nitto R14 with a "big" basket but that put too much >>>>> weight forward of the hub. I wouldn't have run the 32F for that reason, >>>>> nor >>>>> the Surly Big Front. >>>>> >>>>> --Ed C. >>>>> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 6:05:38 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On my Appaloosa I've had a Mark's rack and the Nitto big front rack. >>>>>> The Mark's rack which is similar to the 32F is a good rack. Light but >>>>>> the >>>>>> weight limit is on the lower end. I use a Wald basket and tend to load >>>>>> it >>>>>> up when camping. I didn't like the Nitto Big Front rack. In fact, I took >>>>>> it >>>>>> off only after a few rides. I hated the way the bike felt with it on >>>>>> there. >>>>>> It felt like steering a big yacht. The Big Front is also extremely >>>>>> heavy. >>>>>> If loading your bike up with big mondo panniers is your thing then the >>>>>> Big >>>>>> Front is the rack to get. Didn't work for me at all. I ended up going >>>>>> with >>>>>> the Obento Rack by Sim Works. It's a beautiful rack. A step up from the >>>>>> Mark's in my opinion. I am pretty sure that Nitto makes these racks for >>>>>> Sim >>>>>> Works as well. The weight limit on these are 14 lbs while the Mark's is >>>>>> only 4lbs. I would check out the Obento rack if you can find one. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 6:44:07 PM UTC-4 antc...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looking for feedback on what front racks people are using or have >>>>>>> used on their Appaloosa. I am leaning towards a 32F for two reasons; I >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> that I can throw on a big Wald basket and I don't have to worry about >>>>>>> overloading it, plus I can attach a dynamo light to the front and >>>>>>> lessen my >>>>>>> wheel shadow. The only thing that makes me hesitant is all the pictures >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> have seen (mostly from Blue Lug) show the 34F attached with P-clamps on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> fork blades. Has anyone had luck attaching it to the upper fork >>>>>>> braze-on? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternatively I could maybe go with the Surly Big Front Rack. It has >>>>>>> a similar center front light attachment, plus more adjustability in >>>>>>> mounting. I just really love the finish of Nitto's racks though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My hope was to use a Nitto 32F that I have on hand but the fork >>>>>>> crown mount does not play with V-brakes. So now that I'm in the market >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> a new rack I thought I might as well get one that is even more >>>>>>> functional. >>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Anthony in St Louis >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f2bde9f7-6260-48b4-931f-d6542fa5b978n%40googlegroups.com.
