I do wish I had not sold my AR, had fitted it with fatter tires but I just had no clue then. At least it went to an iBOB list member some years ago.
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 12:23 PM, iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting question to think about (though I agree it's unlikely to happen.) > > I have an All Rounder from just prior to when the larger sizes got 700c > wheels and then morphed into the Atlantis as a production model. On one hand, > it remains my favorite and most-used "road" bike but, on the other hand, I'd > definitely change a few things if I could: > > I'd choose slightly longer chainstays and slacker headtube to make it less > 'twitchy" at slow speeds. Is that the same thing other people describe as > "nimble?" > > I'd prefer a little more top tube slope and/or head tube extension, raise the > bars without an awkward amount of stem extension, even if it made it a little > less "classic" looking. > > I'd like a slightly longer top tube, so that I wasn't as likely to endo over > the bars on steep, rougher rides. [Interestingly,, there were two top tube > length options at the time. Mine is the "standard," but there was a "short" > option, too. Like many of the early production models, I think the idea was > to encourage - or allow - a more upright riding posture without messing up > the handling by removing too much weight from the front wheel. I suspect the > Atlantis just went 'short-only' which, combined with larger wheels, is what > made it notorious for TCO. The newer, longer-chainstay models fix all of this > by re-distributing some weight to the front, even if you have a long top tube > and more upright (less racy) riding posture or bars.] > > In the end, I think I'd basically end up with a modern rivendell, with the > EXCEPTION of keeping the 26" wheels, which I absolutely love despite the > unusual proportions. (I can fit 2.4 just barely.) Knowing what I know now, I > wouldn't hesitate to get a custom Riv with 26' wheels, fancy details, and a > healthy dose of Grant's evolved design ideas. I might even have it painted > seafoam green (the Gus prototype that Deacon Patrick got is a little less > "loud" than the atlantis, and I love it.) > On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 9:13:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I think Joe & Joel have some good points, I can't see Grant doing a full run >> of bikes based on one of his old designs. Especially the Atlantis, given >> that it evolved from the XO-1 (I read Grant said this somewhere, old >> interview or Reader) and he has been refining it for almost 30 years. >> >> I agree with the LHT:Atlantis/Appaloosa comparisons above. If you take an >> LHT and paint it Atlantis blue-green the only thing the bikes would have in >> common is the paint and two wheels. I'm a current owner/rider of both bikes. >> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:02:52 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote: >> >>> I get the feeling that Grant will not build bikes with his older philosophy >>> of the shorter chain stays. If you read the information on the new customs >>> it says longer chainstays…. Maybe he could be convinced on a custom. I >>> bought the Hillborne to have shorter chainstays. >>> >>> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 3:31:39 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote: >>> >>>> The first Riv I ever saw was an Atlantis on the BART when I was living in >>>> Berkeley in the late 2000s. Didn't know what it was at the time, but I >>>> thought, that looks cool! Had a Sam, now a Joe, but I always loved that >>>> original Atlantis. Not the current one with the bow-flex second tube in my >>>> size. >>>> I think Rivendell should do a run of the original(ish) Atlantis, with some >>>> of these aspects from those first runs: >>>> >>>> - The color (of course) >>>> - Single top tube (doubles aren't for everyone) >>>> - 26' wheels in small sizes, 700c in the bigger ones (I'd be cool with 26' >>>> in all sizes) >>>> - 45mm chainstays (maybe a hair smaller in the smaller sizes, a hair >>>> bigger in the large sizes) >>>> - Clearance for 2in tires with fenders >>>> >>>> Who else would sign up for one? >>>> What other aspects would you like? >>>> >>>> Hankering for an Atlantis (61 or 64cm if you have one) in Nashville, >>>> >>>> Edwin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Wukcf2moDpc/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9f1cfa62-5e9c-4eb6-8d65-6ca54304b9a6n%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9f1cfa62-5e9c-4eb6-8d65-6ca54304b9a6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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