What I appreciate about that thread is the reminder of how little I had to say on the subject and how often I said it. Why was I talking?? 🤦
Joe "I have nothing to say.. repeatedly" Bernard On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 11:19:59 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote: > Here is the previous thread about the 26.8 seatpost size. > > https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/2ivUFNnqt-I/m/_wGi3ofDBwAJ > > To Hugh and anyone else taking issue with the post size, by all means > contact Grant @Riv. We can ask why 'till the comes come home here but not > asking Grant/the designer is overlooking the obvious. Sure "they" @Riv may > read this but to ask and complain without directing it to the source of the > question is fruitless. Speculation speculates and that's all it does. > > I'm no fan of 26.8 either as I have some new 27.2 black Salsa Shafts > awaiting frames. Those are by far the best post I've used, including the > 2-bolt Nitto. I don't mind some black parts myself as they are so easy > clean and they never corrode. > > I've done a deep dive into 26.8 posts worldwide and while yes you can find > some besides Nitto, the choices are meager. Then again even in 27.2 the > choice isn't great as it seems on the surface. Many if not most of the > lower cost posts are various rebranded Kalloys. Myself I wouldn't use one, > mostly due to their shallow bolt design and some with a small clamp area. > If you're good at searching things online you'll find a few others but most > are black, if that matters to you, and few if any have a full 23-25mm > setback. So I ended right back to getting a Nitto S-83. The price is > outrageous for a post if you really think about it...... but then again > .... the egomaniaclal "I'm so offended....." doesn't discriminate as to > what the offence may appear to be as long as it's fed. The only way to > "win" that game is to not play at all and be on your very merry way. > > The best looking 26.8 post that does have some setback is a Miche > Supertype. Retroregression sells them in various colors but the silver has > been out of stock since last year. They have gold and blue and red though > ..... I would've gotten a gold one but decided to get a Nitto instead. > On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 12:24:06 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote: > >> I agree the lugs used (no matter the design) accept the same OS diameter >> tubing but Rivendell went with thicker walled tubing. The question is why? >> To me Grant not wanting to ream out the seat tube could effectively be >> solved by choosing a thinner walled tubing. I think it's a structural >> decision as I mentioned before. Laing, I wonder if by reaming out the >> inside of the seat tube you are voiding the warranty? Probably NBD unless >> you ride like Manny and need all the extra gussets and tube wall thickness. >> >> David, basically my issue boils down to lack of availability which >> obviously has been exacerbated by the pandemics supply chain disruption. >> Yet still if I want a 27.2 post NBD. >> >> Eric and Laing, I agree with a lugged post in 26.8mm please! >> >> ~Hugh >> >> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep >> moving.” ― Albert Einstein >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:45 AM Toshi Takeuchi <tto...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Laing, your point is exactly my point. If you use the same lugs you do >>> not change the OD otherwise the lugs would not work. If you want to use >>> the same lugs and want a thicker tube, then it must get thicker on the >>> inside, so the inner diameter must decrease with a thicker tube. That's my >>> understanding of why the seat post is now smaller in diameter. >>> >>> Toshi >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 7:54 AM lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Lugs attach to the OD of the tube and have nothing to do with the ID of >>>> the tube. My second Sam Hillborne, in orange metalflake, had the same >>>> lugs >>>> as my 1st, but used the 26.8 seatpost. >>>> Gotta go - the UPS guy is at the door with my Crust Clydesdale fork. I >>>> am going to call this latest creation Conley's Crustendell Clementine >>>> Clydesdale Cargo Cycle (but sadly awaiting the Cliffhanger rims till >>>> December). I love a good alliteration. The black fork even matches the >>>> black Clementine. >>>> >>>> Laing Conley >>>> Delray Beach FL >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Hugh, I had my little rant about this same issue back on Nov 24th >>>>> last year. I assumed the change on the Hillbornes was made when they >>>>> changed the style of the seat lug. The ends of the seat stays on my 2015 >>>>> Hillborne (sidepull brakes) where they meet the seat lug are of a >>>>> different >>>>> style than the current models. I assumed that was the reason, but I >>>>> notice >>>>> the Platypus and the Appaloosa use the same style as my Hillborne, but >>>>> both >>>>> those frame take 26.8mm seatposts. Seems odd that the wall thickness >>>>> used >>>>> in the seat tube of the Hillborne would change after 2015, but I guess it >>>>> did, hence the change to 26.8mm seatposts. Anyhow, I'm with you on this. >>>>> >>>>> Definitely limits ones options. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 6:43:25 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I asked Will about this recently and he said something to the effect >>>>>> that Grant didn't want to ream out as much from the seat tube hence >>>>>> thicker >>>>>> tube and thinner post. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm with Laing and would like that lugged seatpost in a 26.8, please! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 8:05:10 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Rivendell switched over to mostly 26.8 seatposts maybe 5-6 years ago >>>>>>> when they started using thicker tubing across the board. My 1st >>>>>>> Rivendell >>>>>>> (of 13) was a sidepull double top tube all-blue Sam Hillborne in 2011 >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> was 27.2, every other Rivendell with a 28.6 (1-1/8) OD seat tube since >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> been 26.8 except the thin tubed Frank Jones Sr with a 27.2 and the >>>>>>> Bombadil >>>>>>> with a 27.0. I just wish that they would issue the lugged seatpost in >>>>>>> 26.8. >>>>>>> I put a 27.2 lugged seatpost in the Bombadil by honing the ID if the >>>>>>> seat >>>>>>> tube with an automotive brake cylinder hone. I use the hone on all my >>>>>>> frames anyway to smooth the interior of the tube so that the frames >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> scratch the seatposts. In the case of the Bombadil It just took a >>>>>>> couple of >>>>>>> evenings and an extra set of stones to enlarge the diameter. The >>>>>>> Hubbuhubbuh and Clementine use even larger seat tubes and seat posts. >>>>>>> My >>>>>>> custom uses 31.8 OD tubes for the entire main triangle and uses a 29.0 >>>>>>> seatpost (1.4mm thick seat tube) - made for an interesting search - >>>>>>> ended >>>>>>> up with an very cool 30 year old NOS Campagnolo Icarus MTB seatpost. I >>>>>>> grew >>>>>>> up on French bicycles, so alternate component standards were always >>>>>>> part of >>>>>>> cycling to me. Much more pleasurable using Google than telephoning >>>>>>> multiple >>>>>>> bike shops and hitch-hiking across the state in the seventies to get a >>>>>>> 26.4 >>>>>>> Campagnolo Record seatpost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laing >>>>>>> Delray Beach FL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 5:57:29 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 19 October 2021 at 7:37:04 pm UTC+11 Nick Payne wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you use a seattube with thicker 0.9mm walls (say for a touring >>>>>>>>> bike designed to carry a load), then that will take a 28.6mm seatpost. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That should have been 26.8mm seatpost, not 28.6. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/232661c3-d738-4bdc-ac36-393921046a76n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/232661c3-d738-4bdc-ac36-393921046a76n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/PJBZce5BzpY/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xz4nnK7ROH%3DehmQFj1wXcddnCY5C1jV4NP2YQXuzTmNGg%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xz4nnK7ROH%3DehmQFj1wXcddnCY5C1jV4NP2YQXuzTmNGg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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