Ah, everything was different: closer ratio gearing, closer-spaced cogs and 
a longer lever to shift them. I can see how the shifting to bigger 9-speed 
cogs would require more effort. 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 2:45:03 PM UTC-8 Andrew Turner wrote:

> The "before" was/is an Ultegra 11 speed rear mech. 6800 I think? 11 speed 
> cassette and downtube friction shifters (Silver). Very normal pressure 
> needed to move the chain. I'm gonna try to run it next with the 9 speed 
> cassette and a roadlink.
>
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 3:27 PM Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've read some other comments about having shifting issues with that RD 
>> in the lowest gears. 
>> So what do you have on hand ? Any friction or other shifters ? A normal 
>> RD ? 
>> If you have only one start with the one you have. If you have both I'd 
>> start with the trying a normal RD. 
>> Doesn't it state on the Riv page the "nobody squawks at a Deore" ?
>> Hah hah ... the w-w-w is a very large place and the squawking do take 
>> place. 
>> On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 3:55:34 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I've got the Deore shadow rear mech that Riv sells, a 12-36 9 speed 
>>> cassette and Silver bar-end shifters and I noticed it takes waayyyyy more 
>>> effort to pull the lever up to run the lower gears than before. I'm 
>>> considering using their downtube shifters for a little extra leverage. Is 
>>> this due to the stronger spring in the rear mech or what? Is there 
>>> something i can do or will time and use make it easier?  
>>>
>>> And just to vent, this shadow design is a little, well, dumb. I can't 
>>> throw the chain across the whole range to the small cog without it getting 
>>> stuck on the part of the mech where the limit screws are. Not that I would 
>>> ever do that but damn. 
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