The Mystery Bike/Appaloosa happened shortly after I discovered RBW, so 
2012'ish sounds about right.  

My memory is that Grant put out feelers for 10 people to buy a new bike, 
completely sight unseen with no input (I don't remember if they were 
allowed to choose color) into the bike.  I don't recall if they were 
completes or F/F/H, but $4000 sticks in my mind as being the cost.  

I have several really good photos that were posted of those bikes.  

[image: Joe Appaloosa (5).jpg]

On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 1:14:05 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Cheers for the feedback! Yeah, it was pretty wild to go from about a 3/10 
> to a 6/10 overnight on my Rivendell knowledge (still a good ways to go 
> before I'm any sort of expert).  Of course, my "knowledge" is limited to 
> what I've found either in the reader or on the website for the most part, 
> and there's a lot that's not really covered in those spots.  
>
> I wasn't sure whether to consider the Road and Road Standard as different 
> bikes, but I'll separate them out yeah.  So then on the '95 lineup, was the 
> Road a semi-custom while the AR and Mountain (Expedition? Should I include 
> this alt name?) were set geometry?  From memory the Road was the cheapest 
> of the three so I was a bit confused by that all. 
>
> I'll research more on the Gen 1 Appaloosa and Mystery Bike because I 
> omitted them out of unawareness rather than conscious decision. I welcome 
> (heck, I beg for) any insight or leads you may have in this regard.  I 
> think I'd also like to highlight in this timeline when models either 
> underwent significant geometry changes or changed builders (AHH and 
> Atlantis being obvious ones).  This might turn into a full wiki, not sure 
> yet, depends how bored I get this winter I guess!  I have webhosting 
> available, just need to sort some stuff out on that end. 
>
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, 27 November 2021 at 10:58:35 UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Good effort.  I bet that was fun, digesting so much at once.  My comment 
>> is that I don't think I'd discount the original Appaloosa or "mystery 
>> bike," which is different from the current Appaloosa.  I know it was 'sort 
>> of' a prototype, but they were produced for specific, paying customers - 
>> exactly the way early Roads, All Rounders and Mountains were - with no 
>> design input from the buyers and - unlike those others - they DID have an 
>> actual model name and head badge.  I don't think I'd consider them 
>> insignificant either, as they were the experience that led to the current 
>> long chainstay, longer top tube models and the big swept-back bars like the 
>> bosco.  Kind of key to understanding the whole evolution.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 3:29:08 AM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> Nice Jason, and needed.  The Road was followed quickly by the Road 
>>> Standard, I think by '96.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 1:45:44 AM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> I spent the afternoon and evening trawling the full set of Riv Readers, 
>>>> as well as old copies of the Rivendell website via archive.org (it was 
>>>> veloworks.com/rivendell first, then it was rivendellbicycles.com, then 
>>>> moved to the current home of rivbike.com - I've perused probably 
>>>> upwards of 100's of snapshots of these sites today).  
>>>>
>>>> I don't have nearly as deep of experience with Rivendell as some of you 
>>>> so I wanted to run this timeline by y'all and see if you can point out 
>>>> omissions or errors in my timeline. There are a lot of permutations of 
>>>> some 
>>>> of these models of course - I have pretty detailed notes about where each 
>>>> model was made (including many which went through a few shops) in addition 
>>>> to the timeline, which I plan to include in whatever final form this 
>>>> takes.  
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you see something missing or incorrect!  Note: I 
>>>> left Protovelo's out because I'm not considering prototypes to be 
>>>> relevant; 
>>>> I might be missing some Rosco's but only the Bubbe 51 and Road 55.5 are 
>>>> ones I have any info on. The step-thru version seems to have snuck past my 
>>>> research so far. 
>>>>
>>>>  [image: PXL_20211127_062150509.jpg]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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