I suppose one person's "impractical race standards" are another's comfort zone. I tried the high-bars approach and didn't care for it. I felt like I was driving a bus and that my center of gravity was too high.
You can disparage that as following "impractical race standards" all you want, but the fact of the matter is that lower bar height works better for me. But in coming to that discovery I've had to give up one of the long-top-tube neutralizing variables in the process. Hence my question: if someone prefers lower bars, should they size down with respect to what ordinarily be recommended? On May 5, 3:38 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > Roadeo excepted, isn't the general philosophy behind Riv design to > stay away from impractical race standards? > > On May 5, 5:32 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > All of this is true, but it seems to depend upon high bars to help > > with the neutralizing. If someone prefers a low bars setup, one of the > > neutralizing elements in Riv's schema does not come into play. > > > So what should someone do in such a scenario, assuming they aren't > > willing to adopt a higher bar position? Should they purchase a smaller > > frame than would ordinarily be recommended for their given PBH? > > > Aaron > > > On May 5, 2:53 pm, Grant Petersen <gr...@rivbike.com> wrote: > > > > > It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells > > > > frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you > > > > need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. > > > > UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso. > > > > The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize > > > people > > > come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, but basically, it's > > > like this. Forgive lack of detail in these explanations: > > > > Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes. > > > > Higher bars super-'eutralize long top tubes. We're the Cosmos champs in > > > that > > > cat. > > > > As bars get higher, your arms become more horizontal, and that makes them > > > longer (effectively, not literally). > > > > Tall quill stems always help, but with our bikes--as much as I likem & we > > > gottem, they're less necessary than they are with a '73 Colnago, or '84 > > > Centurion Ironman, etc. > > > > I cannot image more drop-bar friendly bikes than ours. I wouldn't design a > > > bike that wouldn't work fine with a drop. With appropriate-sized stems for > > > the size. > > > > Granted, my personal Sam is a 60 with a 7stem, and that's borderline > > > funky, > > > but that's on a 62.5 top tube, and I'm a mere 5-9.9. > > > > G > > > -- > > > Grant > > > Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com > > > 925 933 7304 > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
