@John Phillips: Regarding availability it seems that a number of the manufacturing problems we're seeing everywhere have collided for Crust as well.
They made a pretty small order before the bike boom, couldn't predict the demand, only half their order arrived (~90 bars), the order was very late, plenty of time for >90 people to get excited about the bars. Given issues with global shipping, sourcing raw materials and the fact that much bigger companies than Crust are having their bars made at the same factory in Taiwan and that there's now a lead time of 18 months to get more of them made we have derived grandma's secret recipe for Gosh Darn I Just Want When I Want It Why Can't I Have It Now double chocolate cake. There's a discussion including commentary from Dr. Ron, MD in the comments section of this Radavist post <https://theradavist.com/2022/01/uncle-rons-orthopedic-back-bar-is-in-stock-now-at-crust-bikes/> . On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp stems > from the 1990s in his parts stash :-) > > I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel > Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing > I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really > love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat > mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though... > > Cheers, > John > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch < > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Eric, >> I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial >> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto >> Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still >> puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle. >> >> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the Technomic >> Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know. >> >> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think I'm >> going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe. >> >> >> Hi Johnny, >> Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? >> Could strength be a factor? Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some >> 120-130mm stems for these bars. >> >> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely off >> guard. Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions >> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his >> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person interested >> in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... " >> >> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars Sesion#1-#3 >> ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram photos, and they >> created a monster. >> >> John >> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain >>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you >>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). >>> >>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic >>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check >>> 'em here >>> <https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-ntc-dx-technomic-deluxe-long-quill-stem-stem_nitto_ntc-dxlong_870/p?skuId=673316> >>> . >>> >>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote: >>> >>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, >>>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't >>>> need them too high, so fingers crossed. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I >>>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished >>>>> putting >>>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't >>>>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I >>>>> assumed >>>>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem >>>>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the >>>>> aesthetics. >>>>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the >>>>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though. >>>>> >>>>> Bones >>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them >>>>>> along? Because I’m in! Haha >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 👍 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That gave me a chuckle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem >>>>>>>> to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> stem. Oh, I found it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it >>>>>>>>> on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch < >>>>>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5e1e78f7-0869-49ea-b359-309bc00dafbfn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5e1e78f7-0869-49ea-b359-309bc00dafbfn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/sWrZSuNYb2g/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5ee012c7-4272-4b98-96a6-42e382c0def4n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5ee012c7-4272-4b98-96a6-42e382c0def4n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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