Eric , I did the same thing I think it’s the outer bend I compared my bar with a nitto bar as well.
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Eric Marth <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lucky – These were made in Taiwan, can't remember the factory. They make > bars for one of the big companies (but can't remember who at the moment). > >> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:15:38 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote: >> Am I wrong that these bars were hand bent by Ron and a vise, vs “factory >> made”? >> >>> On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:13, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> Eric, The bar clamp section of my Ortho bars is much more off center than >>> yours, and I think if I sold them to someone sight unseen, they would be >>> justifiably PO'd. If I tried to clamp my Ortho bar in a stem, I would be >>> tightening the stem down on the section transitioning from the 25.4mm clamp >>> section to the 22.2 bar. >>> >>> Crust emailed me within minutes telling me to send the bars back. This must >>> be a complete bummer for them, and I only hope they recover compensation >>> from the manufacturer. >>> >>> I think if the shape of these bars was based on the Albatross rather than >>> the Bosco, they would fit more bikes, and give people more choices in stem >>> length to fit their bodies and riding positions. I think the Ortho's don't >>> need shorter grip sections, they just need some reach, maybe 3-5cm? >>> >>> YMMV, >>> >>> John >>> >>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote: >>>> @John & Sam: I'm sure you could easily unload those bars, even with the >>>> asymmetry! >>>> >>>> Now, regarding the asymmetry. I spent a bit of time looking closely at my >>>> bars last night. When I align the Ortho Bars with a loose set of Albatross >>>> bars with both sets facing the same way, nestled together, they very >>>> clearly don't line up. I assume that the Nitto bars are perfectly >>>> symmetrical given Nitto's reputation for precision. In the photo I placed >>>> the rule centered beneath the Albatross bars. >>>> >>>> However, when I flip the bars around into an interlocking orientation the >>>> clamps do appear centered. There must be some inconsistency with the rise >>>> or bends of the Ortho bars that prevents them from nestling on center with >>>> the Albatross bars when they're both oriented the same direction. When >>>> measuring I could not determine where the inconsistency is. >>>> >>>> I measured my Ortho bars from outside to outside, found the center line >>>> and measured to the left and right from there. There is a slight >>>> inconsistency in the textured clamp area but it's about 1.2mm. Same for >>>> the taper of the bar, which I measured with calipers. There's some >>>> inconsistency but for handlebars it's trivial. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:55:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote: >>>>> I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are also >>>>> a different shape, wider up near bend. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 >>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious >>>>>> and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider >>>>>> than Albas though. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not >>>>>>> symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the >>>>>>> roughened grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand >>>>>>> side of the bars, and neither is lined up with each other. I could >>>>>>> live with the roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar >>>>>>> clamp section is way too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email >>>>>>> asking about a return. These bars are so wide you don't immediately >>>>>>> notice something is off, but when I pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars >>>>>>> to compare, I noticed the bar clamp sections wouldn't line up. I was >>>>>>> trying to measure just how much stem extension I was going to need to >>>>>>> move over from my Alba's to the Ortho bars, and saw something was >>>>>>> really off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just >>>>>>> stick with my albatross cockpit for now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 [email protected] >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho >>>>>>>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards >>>>>>>> reach for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic). >>>>>>>> I think I'd be better off with a Billie bar. I'm in northern NJ, work >>>>>>>> in Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp >>>>>>>>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel >>>>>>>>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing >>>>>>>>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I >>>>>>>>> really love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more >>>>>>>>> natural than flat mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Eric, >>>>>>>>>> I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for >>>>>>>>>> initial fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl >>>>>>>>>> gives me. A Nitto Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my >>>>>>>>>> Hunqapillar's short head tube still puts these bars about 8 cm's >>>>>>>>>> above my saddle. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the >>>>>>>>>> Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't >>>>>>>>>> know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I >>>>>>>>>> think I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm >>>>>>>>>> Technomic Deluxe. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Johnny, >>>>>>>>>> Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? >>>>>>>>>> Could strength be a factor? Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock >>>>>>>>>> some 120-130mm stems for these bars. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron >>>>>>>>>> completely off guard. Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle >>>>>>>>>> Ron with questions about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant >>>>>>>>>> Albatross bars on his Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being >>>>>>>>>> the only person interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state >>>>>>>>>> of mind... " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars >>>>>>>>>> Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted >>>>>>>>>> Instagram photos, and they created a monster. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a >>>>>>>>>>> drivetrain upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to tempt you with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for >>>>>>>>>>> maximum health benefits). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill >>>>>>>>>>> Technomic deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost >>>>>>>>>>> centimeter check 'em here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm >>>>>>>>>>>> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl >>>>>>>>>>>> until I do. I don't need them too high, so fingers crossed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't >>>>>>>>>>>>> finished putting it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably be ideal but I don't know where to find one of those. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed that would bring them >>>>>>>>>>>>> too close to me. One of those threadless stem adapters would >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics. I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>> not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling >>>>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bones >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them >>>>>>>>>>>>>> along? Because I’m in! Haha >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 👍 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That gave me a chuckle. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compound to the stem. Oh, I found it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounted it on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> field tested. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clamp? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5e1e78f7-0869-49ea-b359-309bc00dafbfn%40googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/sWrZSuNYb2g/unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5ee012c7-4272-4b98-96a6-42e382c0def4n%40googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/sWrZSuNYb2g/unsubscribe. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/71cbce61-efa8-4432-acde-e8a03130d887n%40googlegroups.com. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/69ce2a78-22bf-4e46-876c-88cc6465b876n%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fac7f6fc-5772-4844-a7ec-5c15ef469cedn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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