Very good to hear. I can deal with that.:)

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> On Mar 21, 2022, at 2:08 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you were sliding off the front of the B67, next time angle the nose up 
> till the back is about level. Test ride and adjust until you no longer slide 
> forward or back. The nose might look like it's pointing up in a dangerous 
> direction, but I've never seen a well used B67 on a bike where the nose 
> wasn't pointed upward. It's not how your saddle looks when you're not riding, 
> it's how your saddle feels when you are.
> 
> It's more than just your riding position, the width of your sit bones matters 
> too as to whether the B67 will be comfortable. If you have wider sit bones 
> like me, a wider saddle like the B67 or the Berthoud Aubisque or Berthoud 
> Vars is a must.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 9:19:32 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>> This may or may not be a question aimed specifically at Clem owners. 
>> Rivendell suggest the B67 for very upright positions. But, most Riv bikes 
>> (Clem or other) I see have either B17, Flyer or other brand leather saddles 
>> (Rivet, RH, SAA...). Even when I take a look at the Riv "staff bikes" I 
>> rarely see a B67, though most of the bikes look pretty upright.
>> FWIW, I tried a secondhand B67 on my Jones bike when I was struggling to get 
>> comfortable on it after converting it from my mountain bike to my everything 
>> else bike. In that effort I swapped the Jones loop bar for a more swept back 
>> bar (Soma Oxford) and jacked the bars up using a VO Cigne stem. I was pretty 
>> comfortable but just could not get the B67 in a place where I was not 
>> sliding forward so I (foolishly?) sold it. But the experiment led me to my 
>> interest in and eventual purchase of my Clem (Lucky day!). To date I have 
>> only ridden the Clem with my trusty SQ Labs saddle and it has been great for 
>> most of the nearly 600 miles I have put on the bike. Most of those rides 
>> have been between 1 - 2.5 hours in length. The other day I went almost three 
>> hours and my sit bones were getting uncomfortable. My thinking is that the 
>> SQ is just too narrow for the very upright position. The B67 seems the 
>> natural choice. Thus my question - why do I not see more B67's on Riv bikes 
>> and on Clem's in particular?
> 
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