Leah, Keep having fun and making friends. It's all part of the bike journey. I once showed up to an elite duathlon (bike+run) with my hybrid flat bar bike with a back rack. I looked around at all the lycra kits and major bikes and didn't really know any better at the time. I thought that because I could run and bike that I could do this. Well, I was having a good ole time out on the course doing my own thing...I was solo. I realized something was up when a car came up slowly behind me and asked if I was doing OK. Apparently, all the bikers were off the course and finishing up the run. I was still on the bike course, not in a pace line and not riding fast. By the time I completed the bike portion, the participants were putting bikes on cars and eating pizzas. I had to disembark my bike and run the 2 mile course in front of everyone. In the end, I won 3rd place in my age group. (there were only 3 in my group) and just did my own thing. I've always had a back rack and trunk on my bike. I rode in clubs but was never taken seriously even when I was a strong rider. The pack and race mentality was very strong. I couldn't keep up with the A or B riders but I could do the long distances that they did easily. It seems like there wasn't a way to be in a club and do long distance but in a more casual pace so in the end, Lone Wolf Cycling was more my game. My suggestion is to just keep riding and trying new things and see how it goes. You might find just the right match for your riding, learn along the way and educate others on upping their color dazzle game. Kate-still riding with a back rack and trunk- in New Jersey
On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:26:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Bill: APPROVE > > On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Speaking of riots of color: My "Michigan Man" bike had boring black > knobbies on it, that were skinnier than ideal. I swapped the tires out > last night for chubbier slicks in RED!! I think Leah may approve of this > color riot: > > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/51988644588 > > It's a krazy kandy kolored klown! > > Bill Lindsay > Livonia MI > > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 8:16:56 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! > wrote: > >> Bill! I laughed out loud, and I could use a laugh today. Riots of color >> ARE my thing - is it that obvious?! And I’m impressed that you manage >> switching between Eastern time and Pacific so well. It’s not hurt your wit, >> that’s for sure. >> >> The poor carbon bikes might be really good at what they’re designed to >> do, but they are rather soul-less looking. I looked around at the bikes in >> attendance and thought, “I guess the best you can hope to do is to throw on >> some colorful plastic bottle cages or a colorful seat bag and call it >> pretty. >> >> Leah >> >> On Apr 7, 2022, at 8:19 AM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Doug, I didn't mean it as a multiple choice. I meant it as three >> embedded layers of "it ain't gonna happen". >> >> >> The *strongest* layer of "ain't gonna happen" in Leah's case is C. >> >> A. 100:1 odds Maybe 20 years from now all bikes are carbon. She'd buy >> one if that was the only way >> B. 10:1 odds Maybe 30 years from now Specialized has patented "bicycle" >> and monopolizes the entire industry. She'd buy one if that was the only way >> C. 1,000,000:1 odds Even if every bike in the world is a black carbon >> specialized, on her first ride she'd go buy a rattle can and get some color >> on that thing! >> >> BL in EC >> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 5:02:19 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >> >>> Bill, >>> My answer to the multiple choices is all of the above! >>> Doug >>> >>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:52:51 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> Eric Daume jokingly asked: " how long until we see Leah on a black >>>> carbon Diverge?" >>>> >>>> If we're taking bets, put my money on the "don't hold your breath" >>>> box. LOL! >>>> >>>> A. I bet she won't ever ride carbon >>>> B. If she ever rides carbon it won't be from Specialized >>>> C. If she ever rides a carbon Specialized, it won't be black >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 7:35:44 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: >>>> >>>>> So how long until we see Leah on a black carbon Diverge? >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < >>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> [image: 6982042D-DB05-4044-8AC4-9076A708539B.jpeg][image: >>>>>> 0221807D-FECC-440C-AE2E-AF03DDB70770.jpeg]We moved to Michigan 4 >>>>>> months ago. After years of being a Lone Wolf I did the unthinkable and >>>>>> joined the local bike club. The club was founded by racers 50 (FIFTY!) >>>>>> years ago, but they seemed welcoming enough. Having never ridden in a >>>>>> group, I lacked knowledge of my pace and skill, did not knowif I’d enjoy >>>>>> club riding. I’ve never been a road rider. The West has always offered >>>>>> me >>>>>> bike lanes and bike paths - riding with cars going 55 mph seemed >>>>>> suicidal. >>>>>> Would it be stressful? Would I be accepted? Would I be slow? My >>>>>> raspberry >>>>>> Platypus is my lightest build. I don’t know how much it weighs, but it >>>>>> has >>>>>> a lightweight Nitto rear rack, a Bag Boy Saddlesack (not pictured), and >>>>>> too >>>>>> many things on the handlebars. Meet my club ride bike. >>>>>> >>>>>> My Racing Platypus. 😂 >>>>>> >>>>>> One of the board members took me under her wing. She invited her good >>>>>> friend and organized a ride for the 3 of us. She taught me club >>>>>> etiquette >>>>>> on the road. They rode carbon bikes with drop bars, but they did not >>>>>> question my bike. It went great. Bolstered by that ride, I accepted her >>>>>> invite to the first club ride of the season, provided we could ride in >>>>>> the >>>>>> same group. “They’ll never believe it when you show up with that bike, >>>>>> Leah, but you’re strong and you can definitely do club rides.” I have >>>>>> stars >>>>>> in my eyes for this woman; she is admirable in every way. If she said I >>>>>> could do it, I would try. >>>>>> >>>>>> I pulled into the park and it was carbon and drop bars as far as the >>>>>> eye could see. A wave of nausea washed over me as I walked my Platypus >>>>>> to >>>>>> the group huddle. Billie Bars on full display, Grant Safety triangle >>>>>> clasped around my waist, looking like a true Lone Wolf, I stood in the >>>>>> circle. The older members were very welcoming and found nice things to >>>>>> say >>>>>> about the Racing Platypus. The younger racers…well, they ignored it. I’m >>>>>> just as guilty; I find them terrifying, so I didn’t say hello, either. >>>>>> >>>>>> My mentor put us in the 12-14 mph group. A good place to start. It >>>>>> proved too easy and I coasted much of that 20 miles. We decided we’d do >>>>>> the >>>>>> 15-16 mph group next time. That day came and due to bad weather it was a >>>>>> small turnout. We joined the slow group again because they would have >>>>>> only >>>>>> had 2 riders otherwise. We chose the route famous for its “rollers” >>>>>> (“What >>>>>> are rollers?” the Platypus rider asked.) and conquered them in cold >>>>>> weather >>>>>> with a headwind. The Racing Platypus, baptized on the mountains and >>>>>> hills >>>>>> of Las Vegas, took no issue with those rollers. >>>>>> >>>>>> The next night was the women’s ride - the first of the season. About >>>>>> 10 women, all experienced riders. Triathletes and marathoners, most. All >>>>>> on >>>>>> drop bar carbon or aluminum. Wondering if they should create a slow and >>>>>> a >>>>>> fast group, my mentor interrupted and said we’ll be one 15-16 mph group. >>>>>> Leah can hang. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hadn’t realized *I* was the reason they were considering a slow >>>>>> group, but there it was. >>>>>> >>>>>> That was a challenging ride. Those women were fast. The route was 24 >>>>>> miles and the wind was strong. I was able to stay in 2nd and 3rd >>>>>> position >>>>>> but I was working to do it. I loved it; such fun to ride with bike >>>>>> people >>>>>> and to let them plan the route. We passed by 4 lakes. We saw tons of >>>>>> wildlife. Cars were nice to us and it felt safe to ride on roads with >>>>>> the >>>>>> group. I got the “wow, a vintage bike” and “I’d like a cruiser bike, >>>>>> too” >>>>>> comments, and one comment that assumed I must not be able to afford a >>>>>> carbon bike. They don’t know how it’s possible not to be clipped in. >>>>>> They >>>>>> marveled at my kickstand. But, I don’t mind because it’s so much fun to >>>>>> ride with them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Observations and Things I’m learning: >>>>>> 1. Bike diversity is healthy. >>>>>> It is good for racers to see Rivendells and similar style bikes in >>>>>> their club rides. It is good for me to appreciate other kinds of bikes >>>>>> and >>>>>> other riding styles. I can be as guilty as them for thinking my way/bike >>>>>> are best. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Bringing your practical, Just Ride mentality to a club is good. >>>>>> It seems racer types don’t know about USING a bike. You cannot have >>>>>> your carbon frame knocked about in a bike rack, so errands by >>>>>> bike/commuting isn’t popular. I have been active on the club’s FB >>>>>> discussion page, and been posting the 30 Days of Biking challenge. I’ve >>>>>> got >>>>>> pics of my huge grocery hauls on my Shopping Platypus and the like. >>>>>> Surprisingly, they did not know about this national challenge, and >>>>>> several >>>>>> of them are now joining me, including my mentor! Riding for pleasure >>>>>> and >>>>>> errands is a foreign concept to most. They ride to go fast and get miles >>>>>> and be fit. But, they show genuine interest in riding for practical >>>>>> reasons. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. There are things you can learn from racers. >>>>>> They are more aware of safety issues than I am. They saved me from a >>>>>> crash last night by calling out “HOLE!” while my head was turned, >>>>>> enthralled with the swans on the lake. I saw the hole and swerved just >>>>>> in >>>>>> time. I also ride too close to the yellow lines in the center of the >>>>>> road >>>>>> for their comfort and they (rightly) corral me back in. Shifting is >>>>>> going >>>>>> to matter. I rarely shift, but I noticed that after a stop, I’m slow to >>>>>> get >>>>>> going and standing on my pedals - because I’m in my hardest gear, duh. I >>>>>> should learn to anticipate that so I’m in a more favorable gear when we >>>>>> set >>>>>> off from intersections. There will be more lessons I glean from them, I >>>>>> am >>>>>> sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Club riding will force you to be faster. >>>>>> Speed hasn’t been a priority for me, but it’s nice to know you *can* >>>>>> be fast. And if you can be faster, you will likely be fitter. I’m >>>>>> interested to see how my body responds to these new challenges. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. Club riding will teach you about yourself. >>>>>> The more I ride, the more I learn. My preferences have evolved over >>>>>> the years, but I think I know how I like my bikes and my gear. I know >>>>>> the >>>>>> terrain I prefer. But I was doing all my riding alone. Riding with >>>>>> others >>>>>> shows you where you fall in context, introduces new experiences, reveals >>>>>> little things you might not know about yourself - like your biases. >>>>>> Riding >>>>>> with others can show you who you are - good, bad or ugly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Two women in my group are interested in a Platypus of their own. My >>>>>> mentor is saving her pennies for one, and another woman told me last >>>>>> night >>>>>> she is very interested. Mine will probably be the only Racing Platypus. >>>>>> But >>>>>> it would be a thrill to see more of these bikes here in town. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don’t count yourself out just because you ride a bike that is >>>>>> markedly different from the norm. 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