Made by MicroShift but no model 
mention: https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/early-april

On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-7 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

>
> It is probably some version of the IRD sub compact. 
>
> My last apartment had a side door that took a skeleton key. I had a box of 
> old keys and one worked on that door. I found another similar key and filed 
> it down to work, too. So that became the door we always used, because why 
> wouldn't I? This was just a few years ago. 
>
> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:53:04 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> The reference of a "skeleton key" derailleur is a figure of speech, 
>> dontcha know ?  
>> You betcha it is .....
>> Referring to "one derailleur suitable for everything" ..... like a master 
>> key to open any lock, so to speak. The "everything" in this case refers to 
>> the bikes Riv designs, contracts, and configures for customers. 
>>
>> I emailed Grant a while ago about FD's and he mentioned the incoming FD 
>> was a model that they had sold before, that took 48-50 tooth rings. So if 
>> anyone has a good memory or archive it would reveal itself. So no, it won't 
>> be some odd doohickey to move the chain around !
>>
>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:53:31 PM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's probably an actual skeleton key similar to the stick shift method 
>>> they used to espouse.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair winds,
>>>
>>> Captain Conway Bennett
>>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022, 2:24 PM Joe Mullins <jmlmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m not sure if I missed it but does anyone know what these derailleurs 
>>>> look like?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Joe in Los Angeles
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Conway Bennett <captaincon...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I find front derailleurs tedious to setup, and I rarely *need* them.  
>>>> Advent X is the best solution in my opinion.  But I also live in th second 
>>>> flattest state.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 2:07:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the March 18th email update, Rivendell reported that the container 
>>>>> full of frames would also contain *1400 Front Derailers*.  They 
>>>>> indicated this model will work with all their bikes, but they didn't say 
>>>>> exactly what it is, giving it the nickname "skeleton key".  I wonder how 
>>>>> much space 1,400 front derailers will take up.  
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who don't know what's special about "Rivendell Front 
>>>>> Derailers", it's a combination of a few things:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Rivendells typically have a bit more BB drop than most other bikes
>>>>> 2. Rivendell builds often have a small-sized "big" chainring.  Like a 
>>>>> 42 big ring, or a 38, or a 34!
>>>>> 3. Rivendells typically have a more laid back Seat Tube Angle than 
>>>>> most other bikes
>>>>>
>>>>> the combination of those three things brings the trailing edge of the 
>>>>> front derailer down close to the chainstays.  So close, that in many 
>>>>> cases 
>>>>> you flat out can't set up the front derailer "correctly".  You have to 
>>>>> run 
>>>>> it floating way above the chainrings.  For a lot of people, this works 
>>>>> just 
>>>>> fine, and some people actually brag about it.  When somebody claims that 
>>>>> Combination X is a problem, it's fun to retort "I have Combination X and 
>>>>> it's just fine!"  
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, 650B bikes have less of this problem (because less BB drop).  
>>>>> Still, it's something to think about.  I prepared by stocking up on 
>>>>> Shimano 
>>>>> CX70 Front Derailers when they existed, and now I'm super stingy with 
>>>>> those.  I'm going to give the "skeleton key" FD a look and may buy a few 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> those also.  As an amateur machinist and maker, I've even dabbled with 
>>>>> making my own Front Derailers.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, you can avoid this altogether and run a 1xDrivetrain!
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>
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