Also note that this front derailer is intended for a large chainring of 42 
teeth or smaller and 14T of total difference.  I doubt there are a lot of 
people running an XD2 road triple with a 42 tooth big ring and only 14T of 
difference.  What would that be: 28/34/42?  I doubt there are many people 
with that setup.  It'll be the perfect FD for a Gus/Susie with a 34/24 
double wrapped around huge tires.  

If there's somebody out there running an XD2 triple with two rings and a 
guard, then that person maybe has a 40/26 or something on their Roadini.  
If that person has no front derailer, then they might indeed have a hard 
time getting this one to pull the chain to the small ring.  

Anyway, I will give it a look on my Black Mountain Monster Cross, which 
will have a 38/24 double on it soon.  I've got a few different FD options 
for that setup, and I'll give the skeleton key FD a look as I dial it in.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 5:24:50 AM UTC-7 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Bill
>
> Great report.    RBW had these FD's on the website on Fri, 5/20/22, and 
> they looked ok to me.
>   
> They state a 48.8mm chainline.      This seems excessive if you are using 
> a 45mmm chainline road triple, like an XD-2.  The FD *may not* have 
> inward swing to shift to the Inner chain ring. 
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:07:06 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> On the March 18th email update, Rivendell reported that the container 
>> full of frames would also contain *1400 Front Derailers*.  They 
>> indicated this model will work with all their bikes, but they didn't say 
>> exactly what it is, giving it the nickname "skeleton key".  I wonder how 
>> much space 1,400 front derailers will take up.  
>>
>> For those who don't know what's special about "Rivendell Front 
>> Derailers", it's a combination of a few things:
>>
>> 1. Rivendells typically have a bit more BB drop than most other bikes
>> 2. Rivendell builds often have a small-sized "big" chainring.  Like a 42 
>> big ring, or a 38, or a 34!
>> 3. Rivendells typically have a more laid back Seat Tube Angle than most 
>> other bikes
>>
>> the combination of those three things brings the trailing edge of the 
>> front derailer down close to the chainstays.  So close, that in many cases 
>> you flat out can't set up the front derailer "correctly".  You have to run 
>> it floating way above the chainrings.  For a lot of people, this works just 
>> fine, and some people actually brag about it.  When somebody claims that 
>> Combination X is a problem, it's fun to retort "I have Combination X and 
>> it's just fine!"  
>>
>> Anyhow, 650B bikes have less of this problem (because less BB drop).  
>> Still, it's something to think about.  I prepared by stocking up on Shimano 
>> CX70 Front Derailers when they existed, and now I'm super stingy with 
>> those.  I'm going to give the "skeleton key" FD a look and may buy a few of 
>> those also.  As an amateur machinist and maker, I've even dabbled with 
>> making my own Front Derailers.  
>>
>> Or, you can avoid this altogether and run a 1xDrivetrain!
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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