Hooray Rod ! Leverage is a wonderful thing isn't it ? Sure, 4 bolt stems are easy-er to get tight(also to mess up), but I get that many people still like the style of the Nitto road stems. While I too found myself thinking "those bars are too long for that style of stem", in reality that's not the case as bikes have had way-back bars of many variety since the bicycle has existed and they all had single bolt stems. Picture a basic 50's style cruiser with bars that went waaay back and wide on single bolt stems.
Having used multi-speed freewheels and Specialized/Campy hubs since forever I got by removing the 12-28t variety with a seeming puny 10" Crescent wrench until I got some Phil Wood hubs and larger 13-32t freewheels. Those were a whole lot more difficult. I finally wised up and bought a 24" breaker bar which makes removing them and bottom brackets joyously easy. With that longer lever also comes it's judicious application of force, often a lighter touch than you may think. Longer levers don't *have* to be used the full length all the time, like a baseball bat you can choke up as needed. Sometimes you swing for the fences, so to speak, sometimes just to clear the shortstops reach. Same lever, many applications. Always fun ! On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 1:03:55 AM UTC-4 Rod Holland wrote: > So, after reading all the replies here, and finding previous threads on > the same subject from 2018, I reached into a package of Hobson-Zingo Allen > keys, recently purchased from Rivendell through some sort of bicycle karma, > and pulled out a 6mm wrench with a 7" lever that was longer than any other > 6mm tool within reach. I used that to loosen the Billie bars in the > Technomic stem, repositioned the bars, then tightened them in place, using > the leverage to maximum effect. > [image: PXL_20220516_212908672.MP.jpg] > > The bars seemed secure (of course, that was also true before the first > time they rotated, but time will tell). I took the Appaloosa out for a > 20-mile shakedown ride, made sure I did a few things to challenge the > handlebars, and was pleased with the fact that they seemed rock steady. Had > a good ride, but came home and ordered a faceplate stem and a tube of > carbon paste, just in case. And that Hobson-Zingo key is at least > temporarily seconded to the Appaloosa's bag. Thanks to everyone for your > help with this. > [image: PXL_20220516_203310662.MP.jpg] > > rod > > Eastern Massachusetts > > On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 8:48:35 PM UTC-4 Ed Carolipio wrote: > >> Just want to say I experienced the same rotation also, which I did *not* >> with the Albatrosses. I tried the tips from here which sort of helped but I >> eventually just switched to a 31.8 4 bolt threadless stem + handlebar shim >> + quill adapter. (Faceplaters are hard to source.) >> >> --Ed C. >> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:42:29 AM UTC-7 Rod Holland wrote: >> >>> Last year, I bought one of the Web Specials, an Appaloosa set up with a >>> 1x10 drivetrain, Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge Endurance tires, v brakes, and >>> Billie bars. This arrived during our New England winter, and final assembly >>> and first rides happened in January, during a break in the weather, after >>> which the bike sat in the basement, at the end of of various queues, until >>> yesterday, when I put it on the road, starting with a 25-mile mixed surface >>> ride. >>> [image: PXL_20220513_201728684.MP.jpg] >>> >>> The bike is set up for an upright riding posture, a bit of a departure >>> for me. A bit more than halfway through the ride, I had to stop and >>> dismount a little abruptly, and the Billie bars slipped in the Technomic >>> stem, settling (apparently quite securely) into a roughly 45 ° angle. >>> [image: PXL_20220513_211233095.jpg] >>> >>> I had just been speculating about how they might ride with a bit of >>> downward deflection, so I got a chuckle out of that, and proceeded to ride >>> towards home in a more aero posture. >>> [image: PXL_20220513_211904103.jpg] >>> >>> I stopped in at my LBS, and they were good enough to restore the bars to >>> their intended position on the spot. All went well until a block before my >>> house, when, during braking, the bars slipped back to their previous droopy >>> position. >>> >>> I'll be taking the bike back in to the LBS next week. Question: has >>> anyone else encountered this "self-adjusting" behavior with Billie bars in >>> a Technomic stem? If so, what caused it? What cured it? >>> >>> V brakes are one of the elements of novelty to me in this build, and >>> I've been trying to apply them gently, but suspect that in each case above >>> my braking created a transient inertial load on the handlebars. >>> >>> rod >>> >>> Eastern Massachusetts >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2dc7ba4f-ba16-4b47-af38-a9021618e7b2n%40googlegroups.com.
