I’ve had some Choco bars in the parts bin for a few years. The reason I’ve yet 
to mount them is because they sweep back from the flats and offer nothing in 
front of the stem. Coming from drops and riding in the hoods, I like to 
sometimes have a position out in front of the stem which is what the Albatross 
bars give me. Maybe when the Roaduno comes out those Choco bars will find a 
home...

Joe in Los Angeles

> On Jun 13, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I can't help with a bar, but I've used Pauls, DC, Shimano, Mafac, and
> Tektro cantis, and the Paul's do seem to have more power -- perhaps a
> bit more rigid? -- and they are certainly easiest to set up, including
> 15" wrench flats to adjust spring tension, which I find very, very
> desirable. And the principal advantage, for me, is that their pivots
> seemed to have less slop, which reduces judder and squeal caused by
> the flex of very long head and steerer tubes and a headset mounted
> housing stop. My frame has no crown hole, tho' one day I may get
> around to drilling one to mount a stop there. But the judder and
> squeal disappeared, or as much as makes no difference, when I replaced
> Tektros with Pauls; same stops and pads.
> 
> Whether all this justifies their price, I'll leave to you.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 6:54 PM John Moore <j...@chilmarkresearch.com> wrote:
>> Lasstly, brakes. I'm going canti. Are touring Pauls really that much better 
>> then Dia Compe to justify the price. I like bling, but not excessive which 
>> seems to be the case with Pauls.
>> 
>> Anyway, now calling upon the collective intelligence of this grp to give me 
>> a hand. Appreciate any and all replies.
>> 
>> - John
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