I like Rivendell a lot. I like that Helm system, too! Edwin
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Now if I start getting a bunch of spam emails from Helm Watches, I'll make > sure to find the Helm Watches Google Group and bash the company as > sanctimonious and greedy. > > Bill "customer number five thousand nine hundred and ninety five" Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:28 PM UTC-7 esoter...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Well-played Bill, well-played. Can't argue with logic like that. >> >> ~Mark >> Raleigh, NC >> >> >> On Jul 14, 2022, at 16:03, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Since James Valiensi lauded the system of Helm watches, and said it >> costs me nothing, I signed up. It works as he said. >> >> >> I'm now #5995 on a waiting list. They provide no feedback on whether >> #5995 corresponds to 6 days or 6 years... >> >> Meanwhile, all three sizes of a bike James claimed to want are available >> to pre-order right now... >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:51:04 PM UTC-7 James Valiensi wrote: >> >>> Helm watches came up with the best way to fairly sell their watches. >>> They cannot keep up with demand. >>> They used to send an email announce when the pre-sale would begin. They >>> even had a page telling their customers the best methods to use to >>> successfully purchase a watch. >>> I got one, once. I sat a my computer trying to add one to the cart a few >>> minutes before the pre-sale. I finally got one. It was like the old days of >>> calling into a radio station for tickets. >>> The next time something went wrong with their computers and the sale >>> never went live. A day later they sent an email blast telling everyone what >>> happened and announcing the sale would start again, in an hour. I didn’t >>> get the email to many hours later and missed it. I and many others were not >>> happy. I complained and many others did too, because they found a better >>> way. >>> >>> Now, if you want a Helm watch, you go to the web site and add your name >>> to the list. You will get a place in line and they will let you know when >>> its your turn. There is plenty of notice, no penalty if you back out and a >>> 48-hr window to make the purchase. >>> >>> This is much better and shows that Helm cares about those that support >>> them. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 12:26 PM, Will Ashe <will...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I bought a 60 purple. These are not going as fast as I expected. >>> >>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 2:07:44 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> six minutes in, and 55 Purple is showing sold out >>>> >>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:06:27 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: >>>> >>>>> Five minutes in, all sizes and colors still available. Some are down >>>>> to 2-3 left though. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's live right now. It lets me add a 55 purple to my cart. I'm >>>>>> going to leave it for you to buy though >>>>>> >>>>>> BL in EC, hitting refresh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 10:37:47 AM UTC-7 James Valiensi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I went to the page and it said sold out. How do you read that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The pre-sale lottery sucks. Many other industries use it, to build >>>>>>> excitement and make people want stuff. I don’t like it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want no part of this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:31 AM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James, how did you determine they were already sold out when the >>>>>>> page you landed on announces when the presale begins? The title of this >>>>>>> thread has presale in it so you knew the frame wasn't available yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 6:51:01 AM UTC-7 James Valiensi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I remember when Rivendell used to be cool… >>>>>>>> Now they seem greedy and sanctimonious. >>>>>>>> I had some interest in getting a purple Rosco Platypus for my wife. >>>>>>>> I was on a job site all day yesterday and could get to the internet >>>>>>>> until >>>>>>>> this morning, and the bike is sold out. >>>>>>>> Its false scarcity to make people rush to buy. Why they cannot >>>>>>>> order enough bikes? The factory can make more, they can have another >>>>>>>> shipment. No financial excuses, people are pre-paying. >>>>>>>> I’ve was a customer since 1994 and always helped when Grant asked >>>>>>>> for money or sells. And he did. I have a Custom Rivendell and a Joe A. >>>>>>>> I’ve >>>>>>>> bought several other models. I’ve drive from LA to his shop to buy and >>>>>>>> visit many times. >>>>>>>> But now I’m pissed and done with them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fd2ddef6-0058-4a30-88dc-5191abc1ee50n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fd2ddef6-0058-4a30-88dc-5191abc1ee50n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f7c27da0-286e-4f52-aa1b-755e377d66dfn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f7c27da0-286e-4f52-aa1b-755e377d66dfn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fc2ed9c2-2d68-45e1-9118-0ca4dc1f53c5n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fc2ed9c2-2d68-45e1-9118-0ca4dc1f53c5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/788cfb96-bb68-4f98-bad0-6ed5690ab615n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/788cfb96-bb68-4f98-bad0-6ed5690ab615n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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