It took a few tries rearranging the stem bag connections to make mine work. 

The stickstand worked very well but wasn’t practical enough for me, when 
leaving and coming back home. Bikes are in my small living room behind a 
chair. Take off stand and move bike around chair to open area. Stand on. 
Open front door and gate, stand off, take bike outside (90* angle to get 
through narrow front door), down steps, stand on. go back to lock door and 
gate and then leave, stand off. The opposite to return.   

If it weren’t for the inconvenience of getting in and out my front door 
(THAT is my real annoyance) , I’d have kept I that stand. It worked very 
well and I used it for about a 1 1/2 years. I would recommend it for 
lighter bikes like Homer and Sam, not for longer bikes like Platypus. 
Greenfield 
kickstand now on both bikes only because it’s annoying enough just getting 
out the front door and easy to just kick the stand.  

I did like that the weight wasn't on the bike when I had to lift it and 
saved about 1/2 lb. 

On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 11:06:06 PM UTC-4 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Roberta. That was a very interesting read. How convinent are those 
> kick stands? 
>
> PS: I have choco moose on my Atlantis. I love them! It introduced me to 
> chocos and I think they are my # favorites right now. But I am thinking of 
> swapping to regular chocos as they dont play well with my stem bag. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 1:55:04 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Deepak,
>>
>> Congratulations on your Homer/Atlantis combo. I had a Homer/Appaloosa 
>> combo, with nearly the same setup (and same order of ownership), size and 
>> impressions as as you. I think these two bikes complement each other well.  
>> I 
>> even did the lightening up process. I’m glad I did because it helped both 
>> bikes ride better, yet still different from each other. Love the dynamo 
>> lights and tubeless.  I rode both bikes equally.  You can read about it 
>> here:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/pWpMrkiVUlk/m/eVByOom6CQAJ 
>>  
>>
>> The only thing I changed after the project was that I put the original 
>> choco moose handlebar back on th Appa, as that bar was the perfect bar for 
>> me on that bike. 
>>
>> I’m still in love with my lively riding Homer but sold the Appaloosa to 
>> have room for a Platypus. The decision to sell the Appaloosa rather than 
>> Homer was that I don’t ride off-road or tour, not that I didn’t like it’s 
>> smooth buttery ride. 
>>
>> Btw, bikes can lose a lot of weight for free with lighter saddles, 
>> smaller bags, lighter or no fenders and racks. I have a 1.25 lb vs Nitto 
>> 2.5 lb rack. I changed Flyer for Selle Anatomica. Banana sac vs Carradice 
>> bag. Some items are worth the weight, like your  aforementioned 
>> kickstand—so darn practical. 
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here is pic from my evening ride today :-)
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Cheers ,
>>> Deepak
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 21:14, atreya...@gmail.com <atreya...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I have had my homer for 6 months . After lot of experimenting , 
>>> obsessing qnd tweaking i am almost 99% there ( in the process I have a mini 
>>> nitto shop with almost all variations of handlebars !which I will try to 
>>> find a good home for when I get  to it ) . The more I tweak and better it 
>>> gets,  more I obsesss , funny how that works !
>>>
>>> I love this bike ! It is super comfortable but yet super responsive in 
>>> handling . I am invariably smiling and instantly in a good mood every time 
>>> I ride it even if just for 10 minutes! 
>>>
>>> It feels super nimble and responsive compared to my Atlantis ( which is 
>>> my first love and forever bike for different reasons ) and want to further 
>>> differentiate between the two .So this brings me to my question 
>>>
>>>    1. Compared to my Atlantis it weighs just 4 lbs less (28 vs 32 ) . 
>>>    How much of this handling difference is due to weight compared geometry 
>>> and 
>>>    tubing stiffness ? I am also pretty light weight between 160-165 lbs so 
>>>    might be little more sensitive to weight changes on bike . 
>>>    2. If it’s weight ? Is it worth to chase some more weight savings ? 
>>>    I want to set it up as lightweight go around town for fun type of bike 
>>>    while Atlantis would do longer touring/hauling , trails etc. I am 
>>> surprised 
>>>    when I see numbers close to 25lb or under . I have no racks or fenders , 
>>> so 
>>>    where can those weight saving come from ? I am not willing to sacrifice 
>>>    comfort ( pedals and leather saddle ) and definitely not my kick stand 
>>> :-) 
>>>    . Below is my current set up 
>>>
>>> Size : 54.5 
>>>
>>> Wheels : pacenti brevet with son28 dynamo and 
>>>
>>> Tires : RH squanomie pass standard (tubeless)
>>>
>>> Shimano hub ( I have realized the use case for dynamo for my riding is 
>>> pretty limited so wouldn’t mind losing it ) .
>>>
>>> Crank : silver cranks 42-28 
>>>
>>> Brake set up : Paul racers and canti levers
>>>
>>> Cock pit : albatross bar , nitto talux stem .
>>>
>>>
>>> Appreciate your thoughts !
>>>
>>>  
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