Ben: I will add my 2 cents: we are big bar-end fans - they are on the bikes 
that have drop handlebars.  We only go friction - not indexed, so YMMV.  We 
use front racks and Wald baskets, and yes, depending upon your specific 
setup, the pair of long "U" cable and cable housing can get in the way.  
Try routing the big U's under the Mark's rack and then zip-tie them to the 
rack so they are somewhat stationary.  Finally zip tie both U's together so 
they act like a single unit.  Yeah, it looks clunky but it might help keep 
those big U's under control.

Good luck,

Jeff
Claremont, CA

On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all! Just looking for some gear chat.
>
> I have a Rambouillet with drop bars. I'm finally getting everything 
> comfortable, but I've been around the block with my shifters.
>
> My bike came with 8 speed bar end shifters. However, when I did my first 
> configuration I mounted them on the downtube. They worked great. It was 
> kind of a bummer to reach down, but I went with it because I loved the 
> simplicity and getting the cables off the handlebars. 
>
> After a while I decided to put them back in the bar ends. I had previously 
> used bar ends for a long time, so it felt like home. However, I have a 
> front Mark's rack with a basket and the derailleur cables were always 
> getting in the way of the front stuff.
>
> So I just ran the cables fully under the bar tape and that install works 
> great to get stuff out of the way, but now my shifting performance is 
> pretty bad from the twisty cable runs; much worse than any other 
> configurations.
>
> So, nothing is really broken, but I know it can be better. Wondering if I 
> should try again with a new take on the "not under tape" routing. Or try 
> downtube again? Or just go nuts and look for a used STI system?
>
> Let's chat!
> Ben
>
>
>

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