Laing, I love the look of those mechs. The Le Tour, the Rally, and the new Record. With the drillium it does seem they're harkening back to the cages of the Shimano Crane. It almost looks like your picture is from their research files!
Bill, I think you're right, we'd moan if we missed out. I think I'll get one just to have one and to support such an insane project for a company of Riv's size to undertake and, hopefully, see through to the end. Were those Paul derailers any good? They look cool but I've never read any accounts of how they worked (or didn't). On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > This demographic is the type that will handwring over the price while the > part is available, and then bellyache when it is not available anymore, > finally bemoaning "if they ever bring it back I would buy two!" :) > > It's what some people say about Paul rear derailers. They were what > $350? They/we complained that they were expensive, then complained when > they went away, and now you often see comments "I hope Paul reintroduces > their RD!" > > Anyway, I'm almost as into Rapid Rise as Grant is, so I bought a bunch of > XT M751 when they were being closed out, so I have a lifetime supply. That > said, a bike company in 2022 developing their own rear derailer is kind of > an awesome achievement, and I'm proud of Grant and the rest of those who > worked on it. I'd probably buy one even as an artifact of audacity. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 8:18:56 AM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote: > >> Probably not, my vintage SunTour stuff is going strong on my existing >> fleet, and future bike purchases will almost certainly have contemporary >> drivetrains. >> >> Jay Lonner >> Bellingham, WA >> >> On Sep 24, 2022, at 7:07 AM, lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote: >> >> I love the Campagnolo inspired textured surface and the Shimano Crane GS >> (Schwinn Le Tour GT300) inspired drillium pulley cage. I will buy >> one.[image: >> Derailleurs (3)s.jpg] >> >> >> >> Laing >> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 9:41:55 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> In case anyone missed it, Grant posted some updates >>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/om-1-rear-derailer-update?mc_cid=657279a7fe&mc_eid=592b20cfa2> >>> >>> on their new derailer. >>> >>> Looks like they found another place to have them fabricated (no more >>> $350 samples for them) and that retail cost (for us!) will be $175. That's >>> about $125 more than I've ever paid for a rear derailer. What do you all >>> think? Would you spend the $175 for one of these when you can get a vintage >>> Shimano rapid rise on ebay for way less? >>> >>> Image below is latest design. I think they mentioned on instagram that >>> the red parts will *not* *be red.* Thank goodness. Give me silver with >>> black pulley wheels. If you thought that Shimano 600EX arabesque flourishes >>> were too groovy, well, check out the peace sign detail in that pulley cage. >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: download.png] >>> >>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-4 cz...@sonic.net wrote: >>> >>>> Really hard to make ends meet with a 20% markup. With a 10% or 20% >>>> markup, you're more likely to be selling groceries than bikes. >>>> >>>> I would be discouraged too. Working hard and putting lots of resources >>>> behind a project you love - only to have it become impossible is really >>>> tough to deal with. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Corwin >>>> >>>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 6:14:35 AM UTC-7 J J wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, I read the blog. The $345 would presumably be Riv's wholesale >>>>> price, right? So... assuming a nominal retail markup of, say, 20%, the >>>>> price would be ~$415 for the end user. No idea if there is a standard >>>>> industry markup, and we know Rivendell marches to their own rhythm. A 10% >>>>> markup would be ~$380; 30% ~$450. Grant seemed disheartened. I really >>>>> appreciate his transparency. >>>>> (Your build videos are great btw Eric.) >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 8:57:56 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Great pics, Ana, and yeah, those Nexaves are quite large! >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you all read the latest Blahg? Seems the prototypes are crazy >>>>>> expensive. They'll be CNC machined. Here's Grant's quote from the >>>>>> fabricators: >>>>>> >>>>>> "50 pieces. These will be made by CNC machining.... They will cost >>>>>> $345.5 USD each, total $17,275 USD. The cost base on the QTY" >>>>>> >>>>>> More here. >>>>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/done-done-wrong-proably-still-doing-wrong>Um, >>>>>> >>>>>> does it seem like maybe 50 Rivendell customers would pool together and >>>>>> chunk in a non-refundable $350 towards getting this project moving in >>>>>> the >>>>>> (opposite) direction? >>>>>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:24:45 AM UTC-4 Ana Candela wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, and love it! I got one last year thanks to Grant's suggestion: >>>>>>> Shimano Nexave RD-C505. It is rather large compared to the other ones >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> seeing posted here, but hey, function before form. I am very much >>>>>>> looking >>>>>>> forward to Rivendell's derailer project because function will be >>>>>>> enhanced >>>>>>> by form. I think it's coming along beautifully :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My RR der is the #1 upgrade that I've done to my bike, and that's >>>>>>> saying a lot! The reason is thanks to its logic of shifting: it doesn't >>>>>>> twist my brain and wreak havoc like "normal" ones do. I always thought >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> shifting in bikes was counterintuitive, but I assumed that was the way >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> derailers. Then at some point Grant brought up the rapid-rise derailers >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the Blahg, and I almost heard angels sing, haha! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now both derailers work with the same logic: if I'm climbing UP a >>>>>>> hill, I pull either or both shifters UP (easy gear); if I'm going DOWN >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> flat at speed, I push DOWN (hard gear). This just makes sense. And then >>>>>>> with friction shifters it is just delightful to shift. So smooth and >>>>>>> almost >>>>>>> silent. Bliss! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Below are a couple photos from last Sunday. Long live the Rapid-Rise >>>>>>> Derailer! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Ana in Seattle >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: IMG_6954.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: IMG_6934.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2b12d638-fac5-461f-a25a-ab37b1e13599n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2b12d638-fac5-461f-a25a-ab37b1e13599n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> [image: Derailleurs (3)s.jpg] >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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