Tire clearance is a thing, too, if you're looking at v-brakes. My Motolites 
are quite tall and clear a 650B x 47 "gravel" tire with room left for 
fenders. 

On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 2:00:19 PM UTC-7 Ryan M. wrote:

> I really do think they are worth the money and when/if you ever decide to 
> sell them you can recoup a lot of the cost back. 
>
> I've had the fortunate experience of using most of the current Paul brakes 
> at one time or another and I do think they all work really well. They work 
> even better when you pair them with a set of Paul levers too. I think the 
> combination really makes the system work quite well and the levers are just 
> strong and smooth. I'm a huge fan of the moto lites, Klampers, and the 
> canti brakes, either the touring or retro models. It does take a little 
> time to set up those cantis, but once dialed in they are great. 
>
> Worth it for you...well, that depends on the money. A set of Shimano xt v 
> brakes and levers just isn't that much money and they will work fine. Pauls 
> are just better and IMHO, easier to setup...and the motolites have an 
> industry best disconnection system. 
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 3:34:47 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Only speaking for myself, here: I love my Paul cantis and moto lites, 
>> have them currently installed on two Rivs, had them on another bike and, as 
>> Laing mentioned, pulled them off before I sold it. 
>>
>> I love that there is a small machine shop in Northern California making 
>> weird bike parts and I am happy to support them. They are certainly 
>> expensive. A lot of people will tell you they're downright ugly, I won't go 
>> that far. I do like the look of the cantis and the "canti lever" brake 
>> levers. Dig their barrel adjusters, too. 
>>
>> I believe you can purchase replacement parts for all of their brakes, 
>> springs, spring adjusters, pivots, o-rings, etc. 
>>
>> In the past I've sold a set of their thumb shifter mounts and one set of 
>> touring cantilevers and while I don't have an immediate need or use for 
>> those I do regret it. 
>>
>> For more about Paul Comp check out their YouTube channel, lots of vids 
>> about their shop, installation how-to videos and other funky stuff! 
>>
>> This video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1pIGXyf6Nw> is about the 
>> coolant recycling system that Paul installed in the shop which I found 
>> quite interesting. 
>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 3:56:00 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Echoing Bill and Joe, it depends on which criteria are important in your 
>>> value calculation for a particular set of circumstances. 
>>>
>>> I went to great lengths to find (out of production but soon to be back 
>>> in production) Paul brakes for one of our bikes. It felt appropriate and 
>>> justifiable, even “necessary”. And they’re great. No regrets. 
>>>
>>> In contrast, I was going to install a new set of Paul cantis on another 
>>> bike but instead, I sold them, telling myself that my relatively cheap 
>>> Shimano cantis were just fine, and that the Pauls weren’t worth it. So I 
>>> sold the Paul cantis at a slight loss to lighten my parts hoard. It’s 
>>> really subjective. 
>>>
>>> I chuckle at myself when I consider that I have no problem paying 
>>> serious money for Rivendell frames (they’re worth it!) yet I sometimes balk 
>>> heavily at the cost of components. After all, why should I spend, for 
>>> example, $xxx on a fancy rear derailer when I can buy a $25 Altus that 
>>> works “98 to 100 percent” as well as the fancier ones, according to Grant? 
>>> Well, I got a fancy RD for the same bike on which I retained the cheaper 
>>> brakes. 
>>>
>>> Ultimately I don’t have a consistent algorithm or a set decision tree to 
>>> figure these choices out. The Pauls were more than worth it for one Riv, 
>>> but for another Riv they didn’t seem to be. Kinda whacky of me, and 
>>> amusing. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 2:16:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Worth it" is of course subjective but I have these brakes on my 
>>>> Rivendell Custom and they're worth it to me. The feel and power is notably 
>>>> superior to the Shimano v-brakes I started with, the qr function on the 
>>>> arms is miles better, the adjusting springs are very easy to fiddle with, 
>>>> the very slim clamp on the levers stays out of the way of hands and 
>>>> shifters, I love the slightly industrial look (some folks aren't into it), 
>>>> and they're made 95 miles from where I'm typing right now. Yes it's a 
>>>> chunk 
>>>> of cash but they're on a very nice bike I ride almost every day. I'm glad 
>>>> I 
>>>> did it. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:52:35 AM UTC-7 Bill Fulford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was recently gifted $500 to Rivendell. My plan was to upgrade my 
>>>>> 2007 Atlantis with Paul brakes and levers. I placed the order only to 
>>>>> read 
>>>>> later that the brakes are sold per wheel. That’s  more than I wanted to 
>>>>> spend. So before I call Rivendell tomorrow morning to cancel I’m 
>>>>> wondering 
>>>>> how folks feel about these brakes? I would be ordering the linear pull 
>>>>> brake with love levers. Are they worth it?
>>>>
>>>>

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