"I think the rear basket looks quite good actually, to my surprise to be 
honest!"

Jason, I was surprised, too. I think it's the long stays, there's so much 
room back there behind the saddle and it fills the space like it belongs 
there. I like it! šŸ†
On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 10:49:33 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I think the rear basket looks quite good actually, to my surprise to be 
> honest!  And up front, it'll allow that Fab's bag to hang without 
> impediment and you can mount the headlight off the fork crown, which are 
> some big wins in the elegance department. 
>
> I love the aesthetic and convenience of front cargo, but I'm coming to 
> accept that Rivs are best with a rear pannier rack and only a small front 
> "rando" rack and 137 basket for "overflow" capacity.  I pulled the Pass & 
> Stow rack off my Bombadil and am not looking back!  I'll put a small Nitto 
> rack on and will have saved over half a kg still.  
> On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 17:57:45 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> You already know what my opinion will be but I love to hear the sound of 
>> my own voice so I'll say it anyway! šŸ™ƒ
>>
>> I think your new plan is the way and the basket on the back looks fine. I 
>> wouldn't worry about overloading the basket/bags..Platys aren't built for 
>> full-on touring loads but you've got a lot of triangulation back there with 
>> the mid-stays, I think you'll be fine. Just try to remember when you're e 
>> in the store that you brought the bike, not a van! šŸ¤£
>>
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 4:39:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Piaw has a point. It could come to that! (A trailer.) I went out and did 
>>> a mock-up of how my bike would look with a rear basket. Not as nice, but 
>>> there would be no wheel flop and Iā€™d lose the weight of that heavy rackā€¦
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone[image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Piaw Na <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ļ»æI think the "weight doesn't matter" statement only applies to say, the 
>>> 3 pound difference between my Roadini and my custom Ti touring bike. Nobody 
>>> would say that when comparing my Roadini and my triplet (65 pounds empty, 
>>> 320+ pounds loaded with myself, 2 kids, a 2 panniers for a 3 week tour). 
>>> Having said that, even on the triplet I shave every ounce I can because it 
>>> matters when you're at your limit and you're climbing a mountain in 100F. 
>>> If I were Leah, I would get a trailer that I could easily mount/remove for 
>>> when I needed to carry a lot of stuff. I have had a Yakima single-wheeled 
>>> trailer for 20+ years (out of production now but a similar one can be found 
>>> here: 
>>> https://www.mayacycle.com/bike-trailer-products/maya-cycle-bike-trailer). 
>>> It easily detaches so when you have no load your bike rides like a normal 
>>> bike (no wheel flop, etc), and then when you attach it you get a trailer! 
>>> Even better, with the trailer there are ways of maneuvering it so that the 
>>> trailer acts as a kickstand.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 12:37:28 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> And now..a rant: 
>>>>
>>>> This topic brings up a rather glaring fallacy with the "weight doesn't 
>>>> matter" ethos, you have to lift the darn thing sometimes. Every time I see 
>>>> someone toss a 17 lbs. road bike up on a roof rack like a feather I sigh a 
>>>> little. I love fully loaded steel bikes for the stuff they can do, but 
>>>> they 
>>>> can be a struggle to live with if you have to get them off the ground 
>>>> regularly. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe "oh good..stairs" Bernard 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:35:41 AM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have that rack on my Hubbuhubbuh tandem. The rest of the bike is 
>>>>> heavy enough that I donā€™t even notice the rack weight. I like the 
>>>>> functionality of the rack so the weight doesnā€™t bother me much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Tilley
>>>>> San Diego, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 7, 2022, at 2:00 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ļ»æHi friends, 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we just talk about the Nitto Basket Rack for one sec? 
>>>>>
>>>>> I was so excited when this was made and I got one soon after. I have 
>>>>> it on my Overkill Shopping Platypus, and I like the way it looks and its 
>>>>> utility but it is SO HEAVY. Noticeably heavy. Like, when I lift the 
>>>>> unloaded bike onto my van bike rack I struggle - and Iā€™m no wimp. This 
>>>>> Platy outweighs my rear-racked and Backabikeā€™d Clem, and I think the 
>>>>> Basket 
>>>>> Rack is mostly to blame. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Iā€™m toying with the idea of removing it, but then Iā€™d have to get a 
>>>>> new setup for my dyno headlight, so I hesitate. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I donā€™t think Iā€™ve heard anyone else complain about the weight of the 
>>>>> Basket Rack; I feel like Iā€™m the only one, which makes me suspect Iā€™m 
>>>>> wrong. Before I do anything drastic, I just wanted to see if this has 
>>>>> been 
>>>>> anyone elseā€™s experience. Is the Basket Rack a beast? Has anyone else 
>>>>> tried 
>>>>> it and disliked it? 
>>>>>
>>>>> I know thereā€™s a whole discussion out there about carrying weight on 
>>>>> the front. I guess Iā€™ve never had a real issue with it, aside from not 
>>>>> liking that the bars swing around when parked. Iā€™m not really talking 
>>>>> about 
>>>>> THAT; Iā€™m wondering if anyone else finds this Nitto rack unnecessarily 
>>>>> heavy. Not that Iā€™m going for lightweight, here. I mean, look at these 
>>>>> pics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leah
>>>>>
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