hi Scott, Please contact me off-list <[email protected]> ... I have a couple questions for you about this setup on your Nashbar-branded MTB frame.
Thanks! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/16/22, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]> wrote: > @Josiah, > Hey, neighbor! I'm up on the Hi-Line in Shelby. I needa get outta here and > back to the mountains like you. Thanks for sharing your experiences. I just > got an Atlantis F/F 3 weeks ago and am pondering bar set-up for it, too. I > plan on using it for dirt touring, bike packing, MTBing, and all arounder. > For the Atlantis I'm going to duplicate a set-up I already have on another > bike and am really, really stoked with. In fact, I'll probably pinch it from > that bike. I've attached a picture of the set-up. It's a lugged mid 80's > Nashbar with a 31.8 FacePlater that allows me to run wide carbon (bad word) > monkey bars with M951 Rapidfires. Simple, yeah, but it's a killer set-up and > the only way I would go with any version of a straight/flat style bar. This > series of Rapidfires leaves NOTHING to be to desired. I went with carbon > bars for vibration absorption and ability to get 77cm wide bars. Feels like > I'm on my dirt bike.So, now that I've clarified that I've got my flat bar > set-up locked-in with Rapidfires, how do you think those M961 Dual Control > (thanks, Joe) would work for a swept back set-up? Maybe I should stick with > my Rapidfires for a swept back set-up. In my head it just seems funky to fit > Rapidfires to swept back bars. I just have in my head that those Dual > Controls would be proper on swept back bars for cruising beach cruiser > style. Know what I mean?Not if, but when I get a Gus, maybe I'll just run > straight bars on it. It's hard to think about deviating from a set-up I've > already verified with stoke factor. > @Joe,Pardner, I watch your post replies, and you're a hard one to stump! I > expected to get traffic from you. My intrigue with the Dual Control has > nothing to do with pairing with a rapid rise RD. I run a rapid rise RD with > my Rapidfires (and love it). I was intrigued I guess with being able to > "slap" shift while cruising with swept back bars, at least that's what it > felt like shifting those campy brifters I had. Thanks for the enlightenment > about the Dual Controls offering the unwelcome shift while riding over rough > terrain with fingers covering brake levers. That never crossed my mind, and > now I know why the MTB community never took to them. Being that I'm a swept > back bar virgin, the shifter placement thing gets me. I see brake lever > position set-ups that look good. Most shifter schemes I see I think "meh." > Send a picture of your shifter scheme, please? > True story: back in the late 90s while I was practicing dentistry down in > Ennis, Montana a cowboy came out of cow camp in the mountains with a > toothache to see me. He filled out his medical history and listed his > "Pardner" as a person to contact in case of emergency. > Thanks, pardners. > Scott > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 08:51:30 PM MST, Josiah Anderson > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, I had those on a fancy mountain bike for a while when I was still > into that (next trail bike will likely be an Atlantis, so you can tell where > my priorities are now). I didn't find them any better than trigger shifters, > or even regular old thumb shifters, which are my preference now. I do have > big hands so I guess normal shifters might be easier for me than for some > people, but I don't have any trouble shifting with my thumb while holding on > to the bar with the rest of my hand, so I didn't see any benefit to these. I > went back to regular Rapidfires after they failed. I also took the thumb > levers off of mine after a while and just shifted by pulling the levers up > and down; the thumb levers seem like an afterthought and aren't too useful > in my opinion. > > Full disclosure, I also use downtube shifters on most of my road bikes and > even a rod-operated front derailer on one, so obviously I don't care too > much about shifter proximity to the main hand position. I currently have > three off-road bikes, and the handlebar/brake/shift situations are as > follows: > - Flat bar, Avid Speed Dial levers, one SunTour thumb shifter and > foot/manual front shifting (on a late 90s Nelson custom-for-someone-else > hardtail MTB from Wales) > - Moustache bar, Shimano 600 Tricolor aero road levers mounted a bit farther > back than Grant advises, SunTour bar-cons (on a 1983 Stumpjumper) > - Salsa Cowbell drop bar, more 600 tricolor levers, Shimano bar-end shifters > (on a humongous free Bianchi Volpe that's been great for cyclocross) > Josiahalso in MT (Missoula) > > Le mer. 16 nov. 2022 à 19:43, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch > <[email protected]> a écrit : > > Oofff, I spaced including what these shifters are and a picture. My > apologies. > I'm sure there are variants out there, but these particular ones are Shimano > XTR ST-M961 series. > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 07:33:58 PM MST, 'Scott' via RBW > Owners Bunch <[email protected]> wrote: > > First off, I know they ain't pretty. But has anyone given these a go? > Coming from the MTB world I've never run swept back bars (confession) and > have always marveled at the different cockpit set-ups folks come-up with: > shifters and brake levers here, there, and everywhere. MTBing junky stuff, I > prefer my hands married to the grips and not searching for a shifter to bang > a gear or a brake lever to shed some speed. > What makes these intriguing is that they are kind of a Frankenstein brifter. > The brake lever for braking, obviously, but also doubling as a shift lever, > up or down shift. The Frankenstein bit is the below the bar integrated > thumb-actuated shifter that on the right side down shifts (unless you rapid > rise reverse like I do) when pushed. As typical, left side would up shift > chain wheels. > Part of why I find these intriguing from a set-up/build solution perspective > is because I once had a pair of Campy brifters on a road bike and thought it > was pretty handy being able to shift and brake with my hands not leaving > drop hoods. > > How did I get here? I'm on standby for a Gus and have been pondering > Albatross set-ups. For surfing city streets, gravel roads, or even > trail-bombing, it seems like these would be a nifty solution to all controls > being in a tiny package easily accessed from most used hand position. > Please, chime in on these and why you run the shifter/brake lever set-up you > do: here, there, or everywhere... > Scott in Big Sky Country, as in Montana. > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f100601f-3e13-415e-acbc-68d514cb8af1n%40googlegroups.com. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1158977877.1068590.1668652997393%40mail.yahoo.com. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cbtSI3zdWFg/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CADqZWjM3J9v-HNQayVmRQ3_FHP3u%3DwFezE50yRT813YooQ4Krg%40mail.gmail.com. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1892351636.1119113.1668664351636%40mail.yahoo.com. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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