I do what I can, Scott! Just don't ask me how to bleed hydraulic brakes or 
set sag on a suspension fork. I barely know what those words even mean 😬

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:13:43 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I appreciate the error on overshare/overstate philosophy.  I'm happy to 
> discard what I already know and treasure hunt for what I don't know.
>
> I'm more likely to get annoyed with a lack of explanation/clarification 
> than too much.
>
> I'm here to learn, not show what I know.
>
> My knowledge toolbox has grown - plenty of which from you - in the short 
> time I've been in the group.
>
> Scott
>
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> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 5:00 PM, Doug Hansford
> <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It may be obvious to some but I appreciate the detail. 
>
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> On Dec 3, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apologies to anyone who thinks I'm explaining the obvious, I've learned 
> over the years to start at "explain everything, assume nothing" and it's 
> served me well. And as I said in my first post, I'm probably doing it all 
> wrong! 😬
>
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:52:07 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Trial and error bro! Basically you need the range of motion between L and 
> H to cover the chainrings, and the cable pinched down so the shifter will 
> move the cage through that range.
>
> If the shifter starts slipping you'll need to crank down on the bolt 
> there. Silver thumbies have a little ring you turn, SunRace/Microshift use 
> a hex bolt. 
>
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:26:30 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
> Joe these are excellent instructions. My mistake is not leaving the cable 
> loose when adjusting the low limit. Thanks!!
> Doug
>
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> On Dec 3, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of course I forget something. The cable gets tightened down (after the L 
> setting is done) with the shifter in its most forward position, the cable 
> is let out as much as it will go. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:57:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The way I do it was self-taught decades ago and no doubt wrong but it 
> works so here goes:
>
> Chain in small front/big rear like you said, L and H screws all the way 
> out, then I adjust the L screw to get the cage just inboard enough to clear 
> the chain. That's my low position for the derailer, I know I dont want it 
> swinging any closer to the frame. Now I tighten the cable at the clamp and 
> shift to the big front/small rear. Is the fd getting my chain over to the 
> big ring? Good, now I'm screwing the H limit in just far enough to keep the 
> chain from overshifting and tossing the chain between the ring and 
> crankarm. 
>
> Once I've gotten this far I ride a bit to dial the L and H screws, often 
> on the first try one or the other isn't quite right and I'm not getting 
> enough travel to knock the chain to the next ring. 
>
> Easy! 😂
>
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 11:41:41 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
> I want to tap into the collective knowledge here. I need to adjust my 
> Shimano Deore front derailer on my Clem. It looks to be aligned properly. 
> Is it proper to tighten the cable when the chain is on the small ring and 
> largest rear cog? Should the H and L screws be all the way screwed in when 
> I start the adjustment? I was able to get it to shift but the low screw is 
> pretty much all the way out so it just seems to be off in some way. And, 
> after a couple of rides it seems to come back out of adjustment. Any advice 
> would be most appreciated. 
> Doug
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