I’ve always done my initial derailer adjustments before I install the chain. Front and rear both get installed and before the cable is connected I adjust the limit screw so that the front’s cage is centered on the small ring and the rear pulleys are centered on the small cog. Then I install the cables and take up the slack, cinch the cable, run through the range of motion a few times to set the housing in the ferrules. Then check the slack. Next, install the chain and run through the gears being careful not to run the chain into the spokes.
Like Joe said, it can take a bot of fine tuning to get things perfect so I take my screwdriver and Allen wrench on a test ride. Getting the gross adjustment really close will minimize the fine tuning. Ray “also self taught many decades ago“ Varella On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:03:25 PM UTC-8 J J wrote: > Joe, you’re incredibly generous with your knowledge and experience. Thank > you!! I’ve learned so much from your contributions to this community, and I > very much appreciate the basics, too. The deeper I get into working on my > bikes myself, the more I understand that 1) the notion of bike “standards” > is hilarious and 2) what might be obvious to one person is not at all > obvious to another. Everyone starts somewhere. You’re a great teacher, and > you instruct with humor and kindness. > > On Dec 3, 2022, at 20:22, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I do what I can, Scott! Just don't ask me how to bleed hydraulic brakes > or set sag on a suspension fork. I barely know what those words even mean 😬 > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:13:43 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote: > >> Joe, >> >> I appreciate the error on overshare/overstate philosophy. I'm happy to >> discard what I already know and treasure hunt for what I don't know. >> >> I'm more likely to get annoyed with a lack of explanation/clarification >> than too much. >> >> I'm here to learn, not show what I know. >> >> My knowledge toolbox has grown - plenty of which from you - in the short >> time I've been in the group. >> >> Scott >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 5:00 PM, Doug Hansford >> <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It may be obvious to some but I appreciate the detail. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 3, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Apologies to anyone who thinks I'm explaining the obvious, I've learned >> over the years to start at "explain everything, assume nothing" and it's >> served me well. And as I said in my first post, I'm probably doing it all >> wrong! 😬 >> >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:52:07 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> Trial and error bro! Basically you need the range of motion between L and >> H to cover the chainrings, and the cable pinched down so the shifter will >> move the cage through that range. >> >> If the shifter starts slipping you'll need to crank down on the bolt >> there. Silver thumbies have a little ring you turn, SunRace/Microshift use >> a hex bolt. >> >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:26:30 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: >> >> Joe these are excellent instructions. My mistake is not leaving the cable >> loose when adjusting the low limit. Thanks!! >> Doug >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 3, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Of course I forget something. The cable gets tightened down (after the L >> setting is done) with the shifter in its most forward position, the cable >> is let out as much as it will go. >> >> >> >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:57:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> The way I do it was self-taught decades ago and no doubt wrong but it >> works so here goes: >> >> Chain in small front/big rear like you said, L and H screws all the way >> out, then I adjust the L screw to get the cage just inboard enough to clear >> the chain. That's my low position for the derailer, I know I dont want it >> swinging any closer to the frame. Now I tighten the cable at the clamp and >> shift to the big front/small rear. Is the fd getting my chain over to the >> big ring? Good, now I'm screwing the H limit in just far enough to keep the >> chain from overshifting and tossing the chain between the ring and >> crankarm. >> >> Once I've gotten this far I ride a bit to dial the L and H screws, often >> on the first try one or the other isn't quite right and I'm not getting >> enough travel to knock the chain to the next ring. >> >> Easy! 😂 >> >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 11:41:41 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: >> >> I want to tap into the collective knowledge here. I need to adjust my >> Shimano Deore front derailer on my Clem. It looks to be aligned properly. >> Is it proper to tighten the cable when the chain is on the small ring and >> largest rear cog? Should the H and L screws be all the way screwed in when >> I start the adjustment? I was able to get it to shift but the low screw is >> pretty much all the way out so it just seems to be off in some way. And, >> after a couple of rides it seems to come back out of adjustment. 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