Brian-
That's good insight about the 52 vs 48, the difference being in the width 
of the flair only, since nowhere else is that useful info available. I've 
been considering moving from the narrowest Towel Rack V1 to a Noodle bar 
but have been unsure I could get along with the narrow width. What bike are 
you using the 52 Noodle on, any photos? 

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:49:26 AM UTC-5 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:

> Check out the PNW Coast bar.  A little flair but not too crazy. They make 
> really nice stuff at a reasonable price and great customer service.
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:25:06 AM UTC-7 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> 52cm Nitto RM013 - it's essentially a 48mm Noodle with extra flare only 
>> in the drop itself (so hoods retain a more normal orientation but that 
>> extra flare when in the drops feels nice if venturing off into slightly 
>> more technical terrain.) 
>> I started with a 48cm RM013 after being confused about the measurements, 
>> which differ from the Noodle, and found the 48cm RM013 it a hair too narrow 
>> for my liking.  I eventually acquired the desired 52cm of the same model 
>> through a series of parts swaps and list purchases as well as a Salsa 
>> Cowbell in the widest 46cm size (which is 46cm center to center at the 
>> hoods making the drop/bar ends over 50cm.)
>>
>> I really like aspects of both the Cowbell and RM013 for the types of 
>> riding you describe but found I personally seem to prefer longer ramps.  
>> The Cowbell's 68mm reach felt much too short for me, personally, and was 
>> the only reason I moved away from them.  The 90mm reach of the RM013 felt 
>> much better when on the ramps.  I was kind of indifferent to the deeper 
>> drop vs. the Cowbell but do like the unique flare combined with a more 
>> traditional road drop for a mixed surface road-ish bike.  I'd considered 
>> trying Crust's new 31.8 Bonneville bar since I was running a 31.8 thread 
>> less stem with 26.0 shim for the RM013's on my only drop bar bike.  I 
>> thought I'd like to try the longer/flatter 120mm ramp and 15deg flare 
>> compared to the Cowbell 12deg, however, that frame has since been sidelined 
>> so won't be attempting any other drop swaps anytime soon.
>>
>> I also have one of the original v1 Towel Rack/Leather Bar in the 
>> 66cm/26.0 (only the single option in the v1) but used it only briefly on a 
>> short brakeless test ride mid-build on another project.  It was certainly 
>> wiiiide but I have not yet had an opportunity to fully test it yet as the 
>> full build has not yet materialized.  Current iterations are also 
>> significantly different in spec than the v1 but I do hope to eventually 
>> give it a try.
>>
>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/nitto-rm-dirt-drop
>>
>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/nitto-x-crust-bonneville-bar?variant=39999234146394
>>
>> Brian Cole
>> Lawrence NJ
>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 9:36:15 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone!
>>> I posted earlier about reach in converting to a wider bar and decided to 
>>> start a different conversation to get opinions on wide-ish, flared drops.
>>>
>>> I like the Nitto Noodle quite well, but I think I do want a little flare 
>>> and I don't want to bend them myself. So what's good out there? I'm tempted 
>>> by the Crust Towel Rack, but I'd love to hear what you all like.
>>>
>>> If it helps/matters, the kind of riding I do with the bike it's going is 
>>> casual rails-to-trails, some rolling gravel roads, but nothing too 
>>> technical or serious.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>

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