Despite the huge price, I am considering getting some Paul Racers for my partner's Roadini. While the GC700 pair has been serving well enough, she does report that controlling speed on steeper descents requires a bit of concerted effort. Not so bad that it actually "needs" fixing, but for longer term it's worth thinking about. I don't know if the Racers would definitely perform all that much better, but in looking at the design I think they very well might -- I'm guessing there would be less flex with the way the arms are designed. At almost 400 bucks for a set of the polished finish, though -- wow, that's a serious commitment. I guess that's what you pay for quality MUSA parts.
Part of the reason I'm using the GC700, though, is to be able to mount one of the small Ene Ciclo front racks which is specifically designed around the bolts of the GC610 & 700. I'd have to come-up with a different rack & mounting configuration (I think) if we decide to go with the Racers. I guess there's always p-clips :-/ Which leads to another point about the Roadini -- weird (to me) that Rivdendell touts the utility of racks on any given bike, but then fails to include fork mounts on the Roadini. I mean, not a huge-huge issue, but it would sure have been nice. For the little mini Berthoud bag my partner uses on the Roadini, I think I could likely get away with just hanging it from a decaleur (somehow), so perhaps that's the way to go. Tire/fender-wise, right now we have Rene Herse 35mm tires and SimWorks/Honjo smooth/51mm fenders. That works reasonably well, with some minor fit-up headaches. I don't know that a 38 would fit comfortably with those fenders very well, and I think they are likely about the same as the VO 50mm. I think they'd rub somewhere unless kept in perfect alignment at all times. On my Hillborne, I like to run 38mm tires and I have the SimWork/Honjo smooth/62mm fenders. They fit with lots of room to spare, for the tire, but I did have to dimple them for clearance at the fork blades and chain stays. I suspect the same would be true of the Roadini. On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 8:19:56 AM UTC-8 Will M wrote: > Michael: Thanks for starting this thread -- very helpful. > > A related question: for the current crop of new Roadini's, is anyone > running the Paul Racers (not the "M") and what max fender are you using on > the Roadini with the Racer? (Would like to run a 50mm VO snakeskin with > RH 38mm tires.) > > Thanks, > Will M > NYC > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:18:56 PM UTC-4 Michael Doleman wrote: > >> My plan is to use the GC700 front and rear, for the sake of consistent >> look and convenience (the 610 has threaded pad mounting, while the 700 has >> unthreaded posts). Also I'd just prefer to keep sets together. >> >> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 9:11 AM Patch T <ptro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Michael - I was eagerly waiting for these results. Are you >>> running GC700 front and rear, or keeping the 610 up front? >>> >>> Patch in NYC >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:49:08 PM UTC-4 Michael Doleman >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In a previous conversation I promised to post my findings on actual >>>> brake reach needs for the new Roadini frames. Specifically, I had been >>>> speculating that the Dia-Compe/Gran-Compe model GC610 center-pull could >>>> work, despite having only 61 of the specified-as-required 63 millimeters >>>> of >>>> reach. >>>> >>>> My partner just received her new 50cm model, and I've conducted some >>>> initial studies. Findings are interesting, the main one being that there >>>> seems to be a rather huge difference between reach needed for the frame >>>> versus the fork. For the fork, the GC610 very easily works, with plenty to >>>> spare. >>>> >>>> On the frame itself, it's a different matter. The brake shoe is very >>>> close to contacting the (35mm) tire. >>>> >>>> Some might argue that it could work, but don't include me in that set >>>> -- too close for comfort. >>>> >>>> So I'll be installing the GC700 model which gives another 9mm of reach >>>> and is a very nice brake as well. >>>> >>>> Side note: the fit of the rear wheel axle into the dropout was really >>>> tight. At first I didn't have the wheel set into it properly and it >>>> appeared that the reach was even greater. Make sure you get the wheel >>>> properly seated into the dropout -- with the paint, it's quite tight. >>>> >>>> I tried to add photos to this message but was told the post was too >>>> long with them. >>>> >>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/osLJie-QFrU/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d0e34674-a042-462b-8dfb-e54607111dfdn%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d0e34674-a042-462b-8dfb-e54607111dfdn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a7c88b1f-8cdc-4846-befb-90675503a0ccn%40googlegroups.com.
