bmfo used two question marks in a post, but I'm not sure whether the questions were sincere or rhetorical. They were:
"its still prone to being broken or bent. Then what? " Then the owner of that $15000 custom built bike will buy replacement parts from Rene Herse "Will RH be making this thing 10 or 15 years down the line? " That's exactly what Rene Herse has promised. Just like they promised to stock their proprietary chainrings for their premier crankset. Compare that to EVERY OTHER rear derailleur in existence today. None of them are completely rebuildable, and none of them come with a manufacturer commitment to offer all replacement parts in perpetuity. I don't blame anybody who thinks Rene Herse will be out of business in 10-15 years. Choosing current disposable rear derailleurs with standard fitment is an excellent hedge against future replacement needs. The advice I have to every cyclist in 2022: If you think you may need a particular replacement part down the road, buy it today, because it might not be around when you need it. If I was planning a $15000 custom bike around this RD, I would probably buy a second copy of it. If I was willing to buy a $15000 bicycle, I could afford a spare rear der. In my book Jan and Grant are exactly the same. Both took enormous time, effort and expense to execute a project they believe in. Neither will make money for their companies. Neither was a publicity stunt. They just believed in something and decided to do it. Both think all current derailers are great. Both wanted to offer an alternative choice. Both would not have bothered if such a thing was available today. If you want one, buy one. If you don't want one, no problem. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:49:00 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote: > This thing looks cool but as a whole i think it's exceptionally silly. It > may be better protected than a standard der but its still prone to being > broken or bent. Then what? Will RH be making this thing 10 or 15 years down > the line? Same goes for the shifter. I expect some people with a huge > investment in this thing and their frame will find themselves SOL in the > future. I also think derailleurs work plenty well and don't need that much > improving. If you want the 'experience' RH is referring to, just friction > shift. > > The best thing about this is it makes the Riv derailleur project look very > reasonable all of a sudden. > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 11:29:49 AM UTC-6 Berkeleyan wrote: > >> To borrow a trite phrase, The Nivex shows that RH Cycles have jumped the >> shark. The cost is well beyond any common rider's reach, requires >> retrofitment brazing, paint, and only works with a custom shifter that >> mounts to a downtube. Kudos to Grant and RBW for sticking it out to bring a >> new RD in under $200 that mounts to standard dropouts. >> >> - Andrew, Berkeley >> >> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 7:57:26 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, >> Stewartstown PA wrote: >> >>> The Nivex is on the market now, and I really like the look of it. Even >>> at $729.00 it feels like money well spent if you want something a little >>> different and appreciate all that goes into making something like this. >>> KUDOs to Jan for sticking with it. >>> Nivex Rear >>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/derailleurs/nivex-rear-derailleur/> >>> [image: Oregon-Outback-RH_Nivex-600x387.jpeg] >>> >>> For a custom Rivendell, it might make for a very sweet build. If my ship >>> comes in I'd be tempted to spring for one, but I'll hold out until I see >>> the new Riv rear derailer. >>> >>> Marty >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3d27ff40-f04e-4468-a768-fa7ffd554135n%40googlegroups.com.
