Scott,

Oh, I missed that you have ALL the faceplaters!  Nice!  I thought you had
one stem you were looking to use, and the randonneur bars tend to need a
shorter stem than other drop bars.  The RH bar is 115mm reach, vs the
M137's 78mm reach - 37mm difference! What is nice about the long reach of
the randonneur bars is that you have tons of real estate fore-aft to rest
your hands, hence their value as a long distance bar, but good plan to
start with the shortest stem.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:12 PM 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Jason,
>
> Thanks for the Nitto M137 recommendation. I'll check it out. I've already
> ordered the Nitto made RH Randonneur. In the product description it wasn't
> noted as a long reach bar. Maybe you could check their site and let me know
> what you think of the bar description, please? It sounds like a good bar to
> have in the quiver.
>
> And exactly what do you mean it likely won't work with my stem, too much
> reach? I have Nitto FacePlaters in 60, 85, 110, and 135 and was thinking
> about starting with 60 as a starting point.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 02:05:26 PM MST, Jason Fuller <
> jtf.ful...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Late to the party, but I wholeheartedly suggest the Nitto M137 'dirt drop'
> bar.  I have the 54cm, which measures 54 at the ends but about 49-50cm at
> the hoods. Not super long reach like a randonneur bar (which won't fit
> right if you try to re-use your stem, most likely), but still has pretty
> classic looks with just a bit of modern flare (literally, and
> figuratively).  Got mine from Blue Lug.
>
> On Thursday, 15 December 2022 at 11:22:11 UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I have to retract my overly confident assertion: "best" for bars and
> saddles can only mean "best for me." But here is what I like about the Maes
> Parallel, after using scores of other road and "dirt" drop  bars.
>
> The long flat ramps. I like my bars set up with ramps and ends of hooks
> parallel to the ground, and the MP seems perfectly designed for this,
> allowing you to mount your levers high enough without eliminating the flat
> ramp ahead of the hoods.
>
> Positions: Instead of 4 positions: hooks, hoods, ramps behind hoods,
> flats, I get 5: hooks, hoods, ramps behind hoods, ramps a bit further back,
> flats.
>
> The flat hooks. My left palm hurts when I rest it for more than 10 minutes
> on a slanted hook. The other day I was in the hooks of the MP bar for a
> good 5 miles non-stop, total 7 miles with a bit of a break; again, very
> sensitive left palm. True, I did shift the left palm around every half mile
> or mile, but I was in the drop position as described. Can't do that with
> drop bar slanted downward.
>
> The moderate drop. I like an aero hoods position, but enough difference
> when moving from hoods to hooks so that there is material advantage against
> a headwind; but I dislike deep drops which at almost 68 I find too low --
> reason I swapped out the 140 mm drop Nitto 165 and Giro d'Italia bars for
> the MPs (both have 90 mm ramps and 140 mm drop, IIRC). The MPs are
> wonderful for this: again, long reach, modest drop.
>
> Finally, the quality: the best of Nitto standards among all the levels of
> high Nitto quality standards.
>
> Oh, and even more finally: they have a prettier polish than say the Noodle
> or 165 or GdI.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 3:25 PM 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Patrick:
>
> Please, clarify what you mean by "best road drop bar on the market at
> least for non-brifter brake levers."
>
> I have a set of Ultegra brifters I'm wanting to install on my newly
> purchased HR Randonneur bars, as you know are similar to the Maes Parrallel.
>
> Scott
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:10:08 AM MST, Patrick Moore <
> bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I use the Maes Parallel on 3 bikes and IMO it's the best road drop bar on
> the market at least for non-brifter brake levers: longish reach, long flat
> ramps, modest drop, flat hooks. It does come in 31.8.
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 9:34 AM 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Are you in same position I am, looking for a 31.8 drop?
>
> Did you see the RH Maes Parallel on the their site?
>
> Thoughts?!
>
> Has anyone else tried the RH Randonneur or Maes Parallel? Takes, please?
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 05:37:57 AM MST, Steven Sweedler <
> swee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle
> and the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both
> bars and had used them for years. Steve
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, all:
>
> I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8
> Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.
>
> Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a
> Noodle and stem for change outs...
>
> Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I
> plan on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Scott
>
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