Hmmm. Tax and death, both unavoidable it seems! My Rawland(s) do make an appearance in town on rare occasion. The 650b version does long distance and the 26r conversion doesn't get out much. Look for a scrappy orange Rocky Mountain mtb set up single speed with scrappy fenders for in town duty!
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:46:11 PM UTC-7 Andrew S wrote: > Ian, I could be wrong and would be happy to be corrected, but I think that > C&L receives their Riv frames 'drop-shipped' direct from Taiwan. I vaguely > recall discussing this in a conversation with Julian or Simon. Thus they > sometimes receive their frames at essentially the same time as Riv HQ does > (my eagerly anticipated silver Sam is already on its way out to Alberta!). > So they probably have to put Taiwan as the country of origin on the > paperwork when subsequently shipping to the U.S., I presume. > > Still hoping to see your Rawland somewhere around town someday! > > AndrewS, also in Alberta Canada > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:38 PM Ian A <atte...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think you'll find it's less roulette and more based on the stated >> country of origin. It the paperwork shows "Taiwan" as the Country of >> Origin" the frame will likely attract duty. If it shows a NAFTA country of >> origin (USA, Canada or Mexico) it should be duty exempt. If it shows "US >> Goods Returning" on the paperwork it will certainly be zero duty going into >> the US. >> >> Considering the Gus was from Taiwan, but imported into the USA and then >> exported to Canada it would technically (arguably?) be US Goods Returning >> to the USA. I think a strong case could be made for that and under country >> of origin on the customs form for US Goods Returning. Unless it gets >> inspected and the Border Agency disagree for some reason. >> >> It all comes down to the information the Customs Broker has to work with. >> If C&L are stating Taiwan or USA or US Goods Returning... Might be worth a >> phone call. I can say C&L are very customer focused and responsive. >> >> IanA (who spent a few years in the freight industry and who doesn't miss >> the paperwork!) Alberta Canada >> >> >> >> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:16:23 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote: >> >>> In my experience of shipping bikes and parts, it's generally a ~$50 flat >>> fee for brokerage clerical charges no matter what and Russian roulette on >>> import tax fees. Coming from us to Canada there are various import rules of >>> taxation on new vs used related bikez: us parts, us manufacturers, frame, >>> frame+wheels. And however customs decides to tax. I've gotten a new Marino >>> frame with no costs. I've paid $125 for a used frame and fork and been hit >>> with $70 tax. They make it really really frustrating and annoying. Haha. >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Whoa! That’s a lot different than Jacob’s experience. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Ronald Halili <r.ha...@live.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I too ordered my Gus from C&L Cycles at the end of the day of >>>> Thursday, 9/22/22 and it was delivered on Wednesday, 9/28/22 to NYC. From >>>> Canada it was shipped via Purolator and then transferred to UPS for final >>>> delivery. I received an email from UPS on Tuesday afternoon regarding >>>> import fees stating that I could either pay online or have check ready for >>>> the delivery driver. I chose the latter and wrote a check to UPS for the >>>> amount of $243.92 USD. As for the original question regarding clearance >>>> fee, I do not know how it was calculated other than the split of brokerage >>>> fee and import tax fee that was stated in the UPS email. Here is the >>>> breakdown of my purchase: >>>> >>>> >>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/54cm Orange >>>> >>>> (C$2600.00 + C$199.19 Shipping) >>>> >>>> = $2095.83 USD >>>> >>>> + $191.42 USD Import Tax >>>> >>>> + $52.50 USD Brokerage Fee >>>> >>>> = $2339.75 USD >>>> >>>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:34:08 PM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I bought my Gus from C&L Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me >>>>> (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for >>>>> import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Jacob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. 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