Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail bike to the Gus. I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with 173mm cranks and have been reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, I really enjoy the trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize the Gus has a slightly higher BB than the Clem & the Gus is 29 x 2.6. So yes, I am trying to be mitigate possible problems. I like the Silver crank on the Clem but I will likely use a 165mm Crank on the Gus. But, I am watching with keen interest the increasing availability of even shorter cranks.
And yes, I know technique comes into play here, and I am looking forward to refining mine.

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On Jan 10, 2023, at 12:01 AM, iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits other than pedal clearance.


Have you tried a longer crank, or are you just building yours up for the first time and assuming you'll want more clearance?  (Based perhaps on experience with other rivendell models.)  My single conplaint about my Susie is that the botgom bracket is too high.  Its not at all like my Clem or my other most-ridden mountain bikes from other companies, that are all much lower..  I've probably  learned to adjust my pedaling technique from previous experience, and my huge 2.8 tires probably have something to do with it too but, in case you haven't done so, you should try it with normal/long* cranks to see if it is really an issue. (*mine are 175)

On topic - it is definitely sad to see these go.  Grant orginally said that it might only be the first batch that was fillet brazed, but didn't suggest that the models would just "disappear."  Seems a shame to throw in the towel and not keep them going in some form, even if they're just tigged.  That's how the Charlie Gallop - with similar top tube curve -  will be built, right?  With the Clem(entine) moving further away from its original mountain/hill bike concept, and with the Hunquapillar long gone, this just feels like a slot that needs filled to me.
 
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On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:

Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! 

Joe Bernard 

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s sorta between the Susie & Gus. 

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just arrived, will be it for that those models being made. So last chance at owning a beautiful ATB frameset.

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