Another thing that can be done, and I've done several times with both 
Shimano and Phil BB's that kept working loose, is get a locking ring from 
an old three-piece BB set, torque the NDS cup to where it feels right, hold 
it in place with the BB wrench and tighten down the locking ring on the few 
threads that remain visible outside of the BB shell with a locking ring 
wrench.  Loctite, Teflon tape, or whatever can also be applied on those 
threads before installing the locking ring.


On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 4:19:55 PM UTC-6 Garth wrote:

> I've notice this with both Shimano and Tange cartridges. If torqued to 
> what the manual says, the spindle doesn't rotate freely. It's not 
> "supposed" to do that, but what good is that when it does ? So, I lessened 
> the torque. I also apply teflon tape on the threads, along with the grease. 
> While teflon tape's "supposed" purpose is to prevent leaks and keep the 
> threads from seizing, it also fills the gaps in the threads and acts like a 
> mild thread locker. (I also applied some teflon tape on a Delta bathtub 
> single scald-guard knob mounting bolt that wouldn't stay tight, not even 
> locitite worked, at least the blue crap I had. The darn bolt on the cap 
> hasn't budged with the tape.) I had one Shimano NDS cup that did slooowly 
> loosen over a loooong time. So with that I removed the NDS cup, applied a 
> little blue loctite with the tape and it hasn't moved since. When in doubt, 
> just throw everything in there ......in other words ... what you need to do 
> will come to you as needed. 
>
> The NDS cup with cartridges doesn't need to be that tight, it's only 
> purpose is for mounting in the frame. As such, it doesn't matter how tight 
> it is, unless it binds the bearing that is. 
>
> The cartridges that have a lipped NDS cup(UN54) were never an issue, only 
> the newer ones without it. The UN72 was never a problem either. 
>
> That's the story of that ....... 
>

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